• Laser@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    Everything is just a grift now so not surprising

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        Eh, I’m gonna play the devil’s advocate here but when I thought about it, I’d say it’s more like a human nature or common sense. I can imagine a person who feels excited by posting spicy pictures online in 2011 and then realizing “You mean people are willing to pay for this shit?”

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          willing to pay for this

          Capitalism. You shouldn’t strive to profit off doing things you enjoy. The profit motive IS the problem.

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            People selling their labour is an aspect of capitalism, but in that situation, you’re not the capitalist.

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            You shouldn’t strive to profit off doing things you enjoy

            Sounds like a win-win to me

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              Only if you’re lucky. I loved programming. Used to do it all the time. Got a job doing it, and it’s just exhausting now. So much gets caught up in the process: money to survive, meeting other people’s deadlines and goals, etc. It kills the enjoyment.

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                Would you rather have a hobby, or food and shelter? Having a love of programming made you good at programming. But programming is a means to an end. It’s enjoyable, but if you don’t produce anything, you’re just masturbating. Once you are good at it, you don’t have to enjoy anymore.

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                  Of course, you’d rather have food or shelter. And why would you not have food and shelter? Oh, because society deems that if you don’t work, you don’t live.

                  And don’t knock masturbating. It’s a lot of fun. So is programming with no real goal. Sometimes you enjoy the journey, not the destination.

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                    Yes. It’s fun. Fun is secondary to survival. When you have paid your bills, you are free to program for fun! Or, you can forsake your most marketable skill where you have spent the bulk of your character points and compromise your ability to survive for the sake of … fun.

                    Play is itself a means to an end. It makes you interested in doing things that you can learn from. Play can be rewarding in itself, but hedonism is a trap.

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            Or maybe you shouldnt be telling people how to live their lives? Even fans of communism have dictatorial tendencies.

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              Advice isn’t the force of law. Don’t be silly. There’s plenty of reasons to hate communism that don’t require you to be silly.

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                I never mentioned law. Strawman much?