• frezik@midwest.social
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    3 days ago

    Are you under the impression that Europe is somehow inoculated against imperialism? It’s been fine going along with the US right up to this point, and has sins all its own.

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        Most of Europe is actively helping Israel exterminate the Palestinians in an act of brutal colonialism.

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        2 days ago

        Most US imperialist actions post-WWII haven’t been for territory. The modern version is more economic and abstract. It’s why Steven Pinker could write a whole book on why violence has declined in the world, be technically correct for the most part, but completely misses how the situation has transformed.

        And yes, the EU is very guilty of it all, too. You can claim the US is worse, and certainly a revival of territorial imperialism is a regression to a horrible history, but this wholesale wiping away of EU sins is completely unjustified.

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          2 days ago

          Aside from me giving literally gave 3 examples of the US holding/pursuing territorial expansion while not giving/not planning to give representation(guam, canada, greenland)… Do you think that makes it good? Should we start praising Trump for only wanting the mineral rights of Ukraine?

          Unlike you Americans, we actually do recognize our actions against our past colonies as crimes against humanity! But aside from stopping and holding bilateral development programs for them, da fuck are we supposed to do?

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            Unlike you Americans, we actually do recognize our actions against our past colonies as crimes against humanity!

            You’re still keeping all of the wealth though, naturally, and maintaining the system of unequal exchange that lets you increase that wealth.

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            2 days ago

            I explicitly said it’s a return to a horrible history. If you’re not going to take arguments that are given, then I think we’re done here.

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              When? When did you say “…return to the past…”? You wobbled on about that us (complete fucking nonsense mind you, the cold war was a thing) and you vaguely stated that it did imperialism without stating a time or a specific event… So maybe you can try that? What country is doing what?