• RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works
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      55 minutes ago

      Yes and in practice public ownership isn’t any different than private ownership you just have a different boot on your neck. In the case of public ownership stopping work means going against the state so there’s even a greater incentive for oppression of the workers in some cases.

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        47 minutes ago

        Nah. State ownership is only public ownership in a robust democracy. Oligarchical states aren’t public.

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          22 minutes ago

          And thus far no state pursuing Marxist principles as been anything other than totalitarian. There is no democracy among those that seek that path only claims of it as a goal.

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            9 minutes ago

            Many nations have been successful in creating communism. White people just tend to forget about tribal societies when they’re discussing politics.