• classic@fedia.io
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    12 hours ago

    More like business interests versus you. The state is what we make it

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      9 hours ago

      Yep, this is the right answer. The wealthy would love us to use any division (including us vs. the state) to distract us from the war they’ve been waging on us for decades.

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    12 hours ago

    This is confusing because the issue is federal right now. It’s the Feds against you. Many of the States are actually our last line of defense right now.

    I get that state is being used outside of our “states”, but again, more confusing than clever.

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    13 hours ago

    Well by that logic we should always choose the weakest possible government, that’s small state talk, sounds kinda red to me.

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      13 hours ago

      By small state republicans mean a state that only supports the rich

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    12 hours ago

    this doesn’t make any sense. it’s maybe not red versus blue, but red is a huge problem.

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      Yep when one side is actively and rabidly empowering the elites in massive numbers with religious fervor it’s a battle of rationality versus religious cultists. Only have to see how cultists continue to defend their God King even when they are surprised they have been negatively impacted driven by hatred of the others more than their own suffering.

      It would be nice if it was a simple rich vs poor, but it is far from that with huge ideological differences that actually go beyond simple financial classes.

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    13 hours ago

    While true, let’s not ignore the fact that some citizens are definitely rabid about their party affiliation, and others are so fixated on other things like white nationalism that they’re as much the enemy as capitalism.

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      13 hours ago

      Supporters of capitalism are just as bad, no matter their financial position

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        12 hours ago

        Cool. That’s not what I was talking about. I was talking about the fact that there’s more the the story when it comes down to who is going to be a useful and acceptable ally against capitalism. You don’t work with the klan, no matter what their political belief is. And there are socialist bigots, as well as anarchist bigots. They’re no more an ally than a capitalist bigot is.

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    11 hours ago

    And which part of the state is the one that wants to use violence against you? The conservative part or the not conservative part?

    Bad take, bad meme, seems like Russian troll