Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful youā€™ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutā€™nā€™paste it into its own post ā€” thereā€™s no quota for posting and the bar really isnā€™t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but thereā€™s no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iā€™m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. Iā€™m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyā€™re inescapable at this point, yet I donā€™t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnā€™t be surgeons because they didnā€™t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canā€™t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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    Bari Weiss, IDW star, founder of The Free Press and author of ā€œHow to Fight Anti-Semitismā€ publishes and then approvingly tweets excerpts from not-very-convincingly-ex white supremacist Richard Hanania explaining that

    These stiff-armed salutes are not expressions of sincere Nazism but an oppositional culture that, like a rebel band that keeps wearing fatigues after victory, has failed to realize itā€™s no longer in the opposition.

    Quite uncharacteristically, she deleted her tweet in shame, but not before our friend TracingWoodgrains signal boosted it, adding ā€œExcellent, timely article from Hanania.ā€ His favorite excerpt, unsurprisingly, is Hanania patiently explaining that open Nazism is not ā€œa winning political strategy.ā€ Better to insinuate your racism with sophistication!

    Shortly after, realizing he needed to even out his light criticism of his fascist comrades, Woodgrains posted about ā€œvile populism to right of me, vile populism to left of meā€, with the latter being the Luigi fandom (no citation that this is leftist, and contrary to the writings of Luigi). To his mind the latter is worse ā€œbecause there is a vanishingly short path between it and more political murders in the short-term futureā€, whereas open Nazism at the highest levels of the American conservative movement doesnā€™t hurt anyone [important].

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      These stiff-armed salutes are not expressions of sincere Nazism but an oppositional culture that, like a rebel band that keeps wearing fatigues after victory, has failed to realize itā€™s no longer in the opposition.

      ā€œKeep wearingā€, so is he saying that Musk et al ā€œkeep doingā€ ā€œstiff-armed salutesā€ (that anyone with eyes can see are Nazi salutes) in public?

      I know one shouldnā€™t expect logic from a Nazi, but claiming that the fog horn is actually a dog whistle is really ridiculous. ā€œYou heard nothing!ā€

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      an oppositional culture

      [enraged goose meme] ā€œOppositional to what, motherfucker? Oppositional to what?!ā€

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      How is Hanania the ā€œexā€ Nazi a credible source on this at all? For fucks sake!

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        It helps sanewash their own prejudices. ā€œSee, this guy could be talked down from the worst of it, arenā€™t we reasonable by comparison?ā€

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      The Luigi thing is already souring on me a bit as a saw a yter use his actions to threaten gaming companies. (And it wasnt even some super predatory gaming company it was really a ā€œwtf dudeā€ moment. Dont get me wrong im not mourning the CEO, and the McDonaldā€™s guy was wrong, but jesus fuck Gamers ruin everything.

      E: And it wasnā€™t even about Fortnite, or Roblox like those predatory goes after kids things, nope just some dumb live service game with a cosmetics store badly bolted on in a corner. Sure horse armor sucks, but damn touch some grass and note the difference between lifetimes in debt or die and paying for overprices skins.

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        gamergaters and their descendants are novel (to me). for them the games themselves are just vehicles for what they really care about, which is despising game developers and journalists. theyā€™re far right, but much more specifically than that theyā€™re an anti labor movement targeting the labor that makes and writes about one type of product. their primary goal is to make that labor feel frightened, unstable, etc

        if youā€™ve ever seen chuds cheering mass firings (say by elon at twitter or the white house), itā€™s the same spirit, except elevated to the top priority

        EDIT: which now that I think about it makes it pretty perverse to invoke Luigi - the whole thing that makes the UHC assassination persistently popular is that the target was a person of enormous power and not labor

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          Itā€™s likeā€¦theyā€™re trying to do a Peronism by hijacking working class ideas for their weird right wing bullshit, but theyā€™re lazy computer touchers so they just seem unhinged to outsiders.