• endofline@lemmy.ca
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    8 hours ago

    For some reason I’m feeling so Amish… Seems like they were so right with technology risks :-)

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    23 hours ago

    There is no ‘lawful access’ without a warrant or my permission. there aren’t laws saying padlocks need to support a government master key, and encryption is just a digital lock.

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        17 hours ago

        Bolt cutters are not a key, they are a method of bypassing the lock. they still need a warrant to do that, which is the point.

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          16 hours ago

          they still need a warrant to do that

          Lol…

          In fascism, if you have the biggest gun, you do what you want. And Trump has the biggest “gun”

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            15 hours ago

            I’m talking about legally, and as much as I don’t like trump we are not in a fascist country (yet).

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              What do you think the line is? When will it cross over and become acceptable to call it “fascism”? Because we’ve embodied Eco’s 14 features of Ur-Fascism for like 20 years. We now have a de facto dictator who is using that framework to do explicitly fascist things… Where is the line?

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          The laws don’t exist though because they’re so easily circumvented. If you AES256 encrypt something today, there’s an extremely lonely chance they can’t crack it. For years.

          With a padlock they can just pull out the cutters and they’re done.

          I’m just referring to your point on why there are no laws against padlocks in this context.

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            16 hours ago

            fair enough, padlock was the wrong type of lock for the analogy. how about a vault door? sure that may not be as common, but you don’t have to support a government master key for those either.

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              13 hours ago

              Same thing goes for vaults, or all physical locks. It may take a little longer than a padlock but nothing comparable to the amount of time it would take to brute force good encryption. We’re talking maybe a couple of hours or days for a vault vs. millions of years.

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    It’s not my responsibility to make the FBI’s job (or any cop’s job) easier.

    Also, folks should be using 3rd party open-source encryption, like VeraCrypt and a password manager that encrypts the database, like Keepass. Don’t ever expect governments and corporations to respect your privacy.

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        Neither did he last administration and neither will the next. They want us polarized and fighting each other so we don’t fight them.

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          Neither did he last administration and neither will the next.

          How the fuck are people still this clueless. Talk to anyone who is learned on US history and ask them if this is the same as previous administrations.

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            I don’t actually agree that your analogy applies, because it ignores my point.

            Neither “side” (as if there were only a binary choice but that’s how they want you to think) wants you to have privacy. Be united with those who want to fight for those rights instead of divided on other policies which are political smokescreens.

            Maybe a better analogy is that we are drowning in water that is not cold, maybe it’s tepid and maybe its boiling. But arguing over which is worse really doesn’t matter because we’ll be dead in a minute anyway.

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              My life would be much worse if I lived through a boiling water bath than if I managed to live through a room temperature bath, so very good analogy.

              The eugenicists running the country have cooked it already so even if we survive it’s still horribly damaged forever.

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          Exactly. And “leftists” are as hell- bent on division as rightists. We’re on the same side, if people could set aside differences and focus on similarities, that would be great.

          ETA qualification. I am talking about Americans, sorry.

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            “Division” is good when one side is fucking Nazis who are literally Sieg Hiel saluting each other. You’re not supposed to get along with or cooperate with Nazis. Stop with this bullshit false equivalence. At this point it’s downright dangerous.

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              24 hours ago

              I am talking about citizens. What if we had this attitude about Russia during WW2 and Afghanistan? Please close your eyes and try to imagine that.

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                  It’s going to be ugly, and I’m… Well not okay with it, but will do what needs doing. I’m saying there are plenty reachable who would work with us. Anyway, I didn’t pay attention to the server at the time. I have been seeing American leftists calling each other Nazis. Truth be told, capitalism is fascististic AF, and we didn’t guard the guardrails. But the magas who are reachable either aren’t saying things out loud, and I’m sure that’s plenty of them too. Others are reaching out and helping addicts, non-religious, other religious, other hued, LGBT. And maybe that’s just because I’m in a small farm rural area. There is one who’s openly an issue and one who says the right things but gives me the * heebies, for no logical reason. And the other hued who are disturbingly ye reminiscent.

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                23 hours ago

                Nothing you’re saying makes sense actually. What are you talking about?

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                  23 hours ago

                  Historical facts. Both those wars would have gone very differently if not for working with people with whom we had ideological differences.

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              Well continue on doing what you’ve always done, surely you’ll get a different result this time.

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    any ‘lawful’ access that’s baked-in will also be used and exploited ‘unlawfully’.

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    fbi want direct access to encrypted data while simultaneously also all data to be encrypted in order to be protected from china?

    do explain how this is all going to work because it’s extremely confusing.

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      The explanation is that they will just use this shit to target whomever they please regardless of reason. This is how fascism works.

      It is mean to be confusing. Stop trying to rationalize it, you’re wasting energy.