I’m admittedly yelling at cloud a bit here, but I like package managers just fine. I don’t want to have to have a plurality of software management tools. However, I also don’t want to be caught off guard in the future if applications I rely on begin releasing exclusively with flatpak.

I don’t develop distributed applications, but Im not understanding how it simplifies dependency management. Isn’t it just shifting the work into the app bundle? Stuff still has to be updated or replaced all the time, right?

Don’t maintainers have to release new bundles if they contain dependencies with vulnerabilities?

Is it because developers are often using dependencies that are ahead of release versions?

Also, how is it so much better than images for your applications on Docker Hub?

Never say never, I guess, but nothing about flatpak really appeals to my instincts. I really just want to know if it’s something I should adopt, or if I can continue to blissfully ignore.

  • jokeyrhyme@lemmy.mlEnglish
    18·
    2 months ago

    Can I ignore flatpak indefinitely?

    Sure, at least until software you want to use is flatpak only, e.g. Bottles

    • Shareni
      10·
      2 months ago

      Or use a stable distro, need a package newer than 2 years, and don’t want spend a day compiling dependencies of dependencies.

        • Shareni
          1·
          2 months ago

          Ok, show me how you compile Emacs 29/30 on a fresh Debian 10 install in a few minutes…

          • gandolfini_the_grey@lemm.eeEnglish
            1·
            2 months ago
            apt install build-essential
apt build-dep emacs
wget https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/emacs-30.1.tar.xz
tar -xf emacs-30.1.tar.xz
cd emacs-30.1
./configure —prefix=/usr/local
make
make install

            Edit: forgot cd

            • Shareni
              11·
              2 months ago

              Did I ask for a command? Give that a try in Debian 10…

                • Shareni
                  1·
                  2 months ago

                  No missing/outdated/renamed dependencies while building it?

                  • gandolfini_the_grey@lemm.eeEnglish
                    2·
                    2 months ago

                    Nope, a lot of software will try to bundle as much dependencies as needed by default, which makes building from source much easier. Distributions will then “unbundle” them, to keep packages reusing system libraries as much as possible