I didn’t attack you in my comment did I? Unless you were one of the holdouts… I attacked them directly.
It’s like a child who has been poisoned. We have the antidote in our possession but we are arguing because it happens to be a cookie. and one parent is afraid the child will feel rewarded for poisoning itself and the other wants to save the fucking child and deal with everything else after that.
I mean obviously not because you still haven’t caught on. Your argument, your approach to electoralism: Its why the Democrats lost. You “won” the argument from the period of January 2024 until November 2024. There are bans here, on lemmy, still in place from those who shared your view and used their power to silence challenging that strategy or narrative. Reddit too. It was ubiquitous across media.
The wages we earned on your behalf because of your complete arrogance and stupidity was Trump. And you are being singled out because you are here, but to be sure, you weren’t alone in this hubris. All of mainstream media, almost all but the truly “left of the left” media outlets who were willing to go against the grain and make the obvious case that it wasn’t working or going to work: All of them effectively espoused your strategy.
You (and they) wanted to the election to be something other than it was. And you were wrong, and if you were here, I and others probably told you that you were wrong. Some talking heads went onto mainstream media and told them they were wrong (Mehdi Hassan, Sam Seder, a few others). But you all didn’t fucking listen and insisted you could just “beat” the electorate into doing what you wanted, like some kind of whipped dog, while the candidate drifted further and further right, towards a non-existent center.
How many votes did you gather to vote for Harris with this approach, that you and effectively all of non-rightwing, mainstream media argued for?
Well we have the receipts. You cost us 6 million votes, or roughly 8% of Biden’s 2020 vote count. Pretty much the same number as the number of Democratic voters who voted “uncommitted” as part of the protest vote during the primary, because of Gaza.
You cost us core Democratic voters because you created the permission structure for the campaign to not feel the need to get support from their core Democratic base. You didn’t come at this base with rhetoric, you came at them with abuse.
You should feel fucking horrible if this was the way you conducted yourself during the 2024 election cycle, and we’ll be blaming BlueMAGA/ Blue-no-matter-who for Trumps victory until the end of time.
You genuinely have brain damage.
I didn’t attack you in my comment did I? Unless you were one of the holdouts… I attacked them directly.
It’s like a child who has been poisoned. We have the antidote in our possession but we are arguing because it happens to be a cookie. and one parent is afraid the child will feel rewarded for poisoning itself and the other wants to save the fucking child and deal with everything else after that.
You have to decide between the emotional feeling of being “right” you seem committed to, and winning elections.
You don’t get to have both.
It isn’t hard to be right. The answer is obvious to anyone who can think.
I’m emotional about how stupid other people have acted over this election.
I mean obviously not because you still haven’t caught on. Your argument, your approach to electoralism: Its why the Democrats lost. You “won” the argument from the period of January 2024 until November 2024. There are bans here, on lemmy, still in place from those who shared your view and used their power to silence challenging that strategy or narrative. Reddit too. It was ubiquitous across media.
The wages we earned on your behalf because of your complete arrogance and stupidity was Trump. And you are being singled out because you are here, but to be sure, you weren’t alone in this hubris. All of mainstream media, almost all but the truly “left of the left” media outlets who were willing to go against the grain and make the obvious case that it wasn’t working or going to work: All of them effectively espoused your strategy.
You (and they) wanted to the election to be something other than it was. And you were wrong, and if you were here, I and others probably told you that you were wrong. Some talking heads went onto mainstream media and told them they were wrong (Mehdi Hassan, Sam Seder, a few others). But you all didn’t fucking listen and insisted you could just “beat” the electorate into doing what you wanted, like some kind of whipped dog, while the candidate drifted further and further right, towards a non-existent center.
How many votes did you gather to vote for Harris with this approach, that you and effectively all of non-rightwing, mainstream media argued for?
Well we have the receipts. You cost us 6 million votes, or roughly 8% of Biden’s 2020 vote count. Pretty much the same number as the number of Democratic voters who voted “uncommitted” as part of the protest vote during the primary, because of Gaza.
You cost us core Democratic voters because you created the permission structure for the campaign to not feel the need to get support from their core Democratic base. You didn’t come at this base with rhetoric, you came at them with abuse.
You should feel fucking horrible if this was the way you conducted yourself during the 2024 election cycle, and we’ll be blaming BlueMAGA/ Blue-no-matter-who for Trumps victory until the end of time.