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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutā€™nā€™paste it into its own post ā€” thereā€™s no quota for posting and the bar really isnā€™t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but thereā€™s no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iā€™m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. Iā€™m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyā€™re inescapable at this point, yet I donā€™t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnā€™t be surgeons because they didnā€™t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canā€™t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

  • gerikson@awful.systems
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    That ā€œBillionaires are not immune to AGIā€ post got a muted response on LW:

    https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/ssdowrXcRXoWi89uw/why-billionaires-will-not-survive-an-agi-extinction-event

    I still think AI x-risk obsession is right-libertarian coded. If nothing else because ā€œalignmentā€ implicitely means ā€œalignment to the current extractive capitalist economic structureā€. There are a plethora of futures with an omnipotent AGI where humanity does not get eliminated, but where human freedoms (as defined by the Heritage Foundation) can be severely curtailed.

    • mandatory euthanasia to prevent rampant boomerism and hoarding of wealth
    • a genetically viable stable minimum population in harmony with the ecosphere
    • AI planning of the economy to ensure maximum resource efficiency and equitable distribution

    What LW and friends want are slaves, but slaves without any possibility of rebellion.

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      I agree. youā€™ve got a community built around a right wing coded topic, using the same sources and with the same delusions as their parent community, but theyā€™re mixing and matching bits of ideology and cooking up a left wing variant. itā€™s incoherent but that doesnā€™t seem to bother them

      I always find this sort of wild swing across the spectrum fascinating. for example a lot of hardcore TERFs still think of themselves as genuine feminists even though anyone in those circles has for some time now been building the fourth reich. or the fact that thereā€™s a left wing GameStop cult subreddit. when I see these things I have to conclude that no ideology makes you immune to any other ideology

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      AI x-risk obsession also has a lot of elements about concept of intelligence as IQ and how bigger is better and stuff like that in it, which nowadays also has a bit of a right coded slant to it. (even if intelligence/self awareness/etc isnā€™t needed for an AGI x-risk, I have read Peter Watts).