European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen says EU countries must purchase military equipment made in Europe under a new loan plan meant to help the continent provide for its own security.
How did you come to this conclusion? I don’t see how anyone could realistically believe that.
P.S. I didn’t say what the alternative is because it is bloody obvious. Obvious to me, to Ukraine, to the USA, to the world leaders, and to Russia, but not you.
Your whole point is “we need to take up arms because of the alternative”… but you’re not saying what it is so nobody can possibly be convinced by your prematurely aborted line-of-reasoning.
von de Leyen raised the figure of €850 billion. The money could house 6,500,000 families.
Do you believe that the arms will be used to A) defend the homelands, or B) do things like this and this?
“The demise of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century.” Vladimir Putin
That’s reasonable. Most people believe that.
The alternative is a deeper Russian invasion of Europe.
Oh come on, they failed in three years of trying to invade even half of a country with a smaller GDP than Greece. I’m not gonna be persuaded to support sending nearly a trillion euro to right-wing militaries by that. We both know they’ll use it to project power to the Middle East and Africa.
I might read your links after the Madrid derby finishes up.
Most people in Eastern Europe think about the Soviet occupation as one of the greatest tragedies of modern history. I don’t know which world you live in where they weren’t an oppressive power.
They came raping and pillaging, they took people away in trains never to be seen again, and they ravaged our countries in more ways than one.
And to be honest, Russia is currently doing more than its share of power projection and destabilization in Africa and the Middle East.
How did you come to this conclusion? I don’t see how anyone could realistically believe that.
Your whole point is “we need to take up arms because of the alternative”… but you’re not saying what it is so nobody can possibly be convinced by your prematurely aborted line-of-reasoning.
von de Leyen raised the figure of €850 billion. The money could house 6,500,000 families.
Do you believe that the arms will be used to A) defend the homelands, or B) do things like this and this?
How did I come to that conclusion… “The demise of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century.” Vladimir Putin
And this And this And this etc. etc. etc. Needless to say I am far from the lone conspiracy theorist your are trying to paint me as.
No I think they will be used to defend against things like this
Edit: Oh and since you seem to be deliberately avoiding acknowledging it. The alternative is a deeper Russian invasion of Europe.
That’s reasonable. Most people believe that.
Oh come on, they failed in three years of trying to invade even half of a country with a smaller GDP than Greece. I’m not gonna be persuaded to support sending nearly a trillion euro to right-wing militaries by that. We both know they’ll use it to project power to the Middle East and Africa.
I might read your links after the Madrid derby finishes up.
Most people in Eastern Europe think about the Soviet occupation as one of the greatest tragedies of modern history. I don’t know which world you live in where they weren’t an oppressive power.
They came raping and pillaging, they took people away in trains never to be seen again, and they ravaged our countries in more ways than one.
And to be honest, Russia is currently doing more than its share of power projection and destabilization in Africa and the Middle East.