lemmy.world IS NOT a general discussion area. find another community.
my bad…
-manitcor
I think that anyone who’s been around reddit long enough knew this was coming. Reddit isn’t a free and open platform, and never was. The admins allowed moderators free reign just so long as they didn’t do anything that reddit didn’t want.
This wouldn’t be a proper Reddit replacement if an anonymous user didn’t take the time out of his day to type that “free rein” was the correct spelling here
Well damnit you are right - in both that it’s not proper reddit replacement without grammar nazis, and that “free rein” is the usual term. It could be argued that reign also works in this case because some moderators seemed to be under the impression that they were unchallenged kings within their subreddit kingdoms.
It is?? I’ve been typing it wrong my whole life.
I’m still writing ‘reign’ though.
I think “reign” is like “rule”. - A king reigns over his people.
“Rein” is the thing that horse cart drivers use to control the horses. So the rope that goes from horses mouth to drivers hand. You can either “rein (in) the horses” for them to do something, or you can let them “free rein”, meaning they can run as they please.
I always imagined it like a king being able to freely reign over his people - so that he can freely do whatever he wants in terms of governing them.
well that interpretation certainly works here as well :)
Then free reign could also be an eggcorn.
Til what an eggcorn is. Yeah, absolutely.
Same, but I’m happy to know the correct term.
@manitcor Wtf!! What an asshole CEO
Fuck u/spez
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Fuck Steve Huffman
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This guy gets it
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u/spez will be gone soon. Remember his name: Steve Huffman.
Also remember that he used to moderate r/jailbait.
lmao, good fuckin luck replacing dedicated volunteers with one or two shitty ones obsessed with power
lmfao no kidding. part of me is waiting to see the shitshow that happens to some subs without proper moderation. just the amount of bullshit thats gonna be submitted is gonna be intense. and the trolls, oh lord the trolls are gonna have a hayday with once properly moderated subs.
For example, /r/nba went dark for a Finals game - the final Finals game where a champion was crowned.
I’d love to see one or two lower-tier mods take over that sub. It’d become a complete pile of shit.
Gallowboob 2: Electric Boogaloo.
Gallowboob sounds so familar. Who was that again?
He for a time had the highest karma score of any user. He stepped away from the platform. Many redditors felt it wasn’t a coincidence that the platforms most successful user was also close personal friends with one of the founders (Alexis) and accused the platform and the user of collusion.
The reality of his situation likely lies somewhere between his and Reddit’s position that his content rose to the top purely organically and other users’ position that his content rose to the top purely through manipulation. He got his start legitimately making funny memes for Photoshop battles but then at a certain point started manipulating the platform (with Reddit’s tacit approval) for his own personal gain
I think an important part of the story is how he was very obviously getting deals from companies to use reddit to advertise their products. Remember when he just posted the netflix logo animation?
I was trying to find some history of that. I recalled him getting monetary compensation for posting (which is what I was trying to allude to with “personal gain”) but I couldn’t find any specifics. I even kinda think his personal friendship with Alexis had to do with Alexis getting some of the money from advertisers directly in the whole scuzzy affair
He was Reddit’s biggest power user, moderator of a significant amount of major subs, constantly on the front page and had the most reach of the website.
He got caught using alts to boost himself and his account was deleted.
You’re thinking of unidan. Gallowboob just sort of stepped away after getting a job doing whassawhahum mumblemumble.
I think you’re right, I have merged the two together its been so long.
Are you partially mixing him up with Unidan and that whole “jackdaw” thing years ago? Or for all I know they both met the same demise lol.
Don’t remember if he’s a mod at all, but he’s notorious for the sheer amount of submissions across a lot of popular subs, I think.
Wasn’t a lot of it reposts of OC made by other users?
I haven’t thought of that name since before COVID at least holy shit. Probably longer. What a throwback. Reddit used to be so different
Juicy tidbits here for those interested.
Don’t worry, the mods will be paid now. Just by the NRA, Walmart and Russia.
Reddit is about to be run entirely by shills who will hop into mod spots.
I don’t think it’ll be that simple
There are sooooo many fuckin subs, and while I know there are small handfuls that oversee dozens and dozens, the niche ones that really help user retention will suffer.
Like, it’s not the huge million+ subs that I’m missing, it’s the smaller localized fandoms and obscure memory subs that I’m really missing.
But quality will slip. You can’t just substitute care, concern, and domain knowledge that built a community for some rando. The pillars of the communities are moving on and going elsewhere.
People all over reddit have been bitching about supermods and the concentration of power forever. This is what reddit wants, this is the way they become filled with qultists. Easily manipulated, stupid, profitable, and valuable to the next billionaire who wants their own media outlet.
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That’s why the CEO was pushing the importance of shipping their own mod tools on deadline. My guess is that there will be more automated moderation like Facebook uses.
They can’t just re-open subreddits and expect it to go over smoothly. These subs will collapse without moderators.
Sure they can. They’ll outsource moderation to Bangladesh, pay mods like $0.20 a day, and double the number of ads shown.
Considering they didn’t pay any of the moderators as is, I don’t think they would pay for them now.
You don’t think they would pay a pittance for mods they can control and who will quell dissent like the blackout before it ever gets off the ground?
Why would they when you can find plenty of power-hungry bootlickers who’ll do it for free?
Lol … All you have to do is give moderators permissions to a teenager with an axe to grind and they’ll work for free for years
I hate Reddit because of all this stupidity … I’ve jumped ship not looking back and I’m staying on Lemmy
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Tbh $0.20 a day won’t get you very far even in Bangladesh nowadays. Moderation costs will be quite high in the end for them.
Will it get you the definition of hyperbole?
yup 100%
Honestly not too surprising. But good luck moderating the bigger subs without the old volunteers.
Everybody knows that it was bound to happen. Reddit is hopeless and the blackout on its own won’t do good in the long run.
That’s why I’m trying to kick this out:
Deleted my account, removed Apollo, starting to feel at home on Lemmy. No way I’m going back.
This post seems somewhat disingenuous. One of the mods Cedarwolf posted his side of what happened 2 hours prior to this post appearing, and if we were to believe his side of the story the top mod who hasn’t been active for a year just decided to join the blackout against other mods wishes.
Yes, it’s two conflicting stories but he claims to have evidence that he’s been inactive. Basically, people should look into this more than assume truth in the headline.
A lot of these people volunteered their spare time to manage communities for no pay. Wondering how far downhill a lot of these subs will go with Spez putting himself in charge of everything.
they won’t. Spez is learning how much of reddit’s success has nothing to do with reddit itself. hopefully we have all learned from the messy and long experiment with letting corps control our gardens.
He’s not learning anything LMAO
Corporations NEVER learn
His name is Steve Huffman, and he’s a former mod of r/jailbait and as such a paedophile.
This comment needs to be a lot higher.
Dude for real! I thought people were just saying that because fuck the guy but no it’s actually true. Pretty fucked up! And as far as I had seen on Reddit it wasn’t ever mentioned before although that’s probably because Spez would have shadowbanned and deleted/edited the comments if it did ever out him.
They killed Aaron Swartz and close sourced Reddit. That was really the end. People such as the Lemmy founder, knew it which is why they built this, to free us from those power structures. Spez and people like him deserve to burn in their own special hell.
The great migration is here and we have to work as hard as possible now to preserve this work and freedom from such people. Spez and Reddit, is finished, if we will it so.
This is why they need to link an alternative like Lemmy and encourage to share it around.
Reddit doesn’t disallow mods from posting “Join us on Discord” and this will create a slow and steady move to a new platform.
Is it just me or is this going directly against what Reddit once aimed to be?
It feels reassuring being here in Lemmy away of that shit show.
I’m just waiting for substitutes of my old groups to start populating instances here. I’ll be deleting my reddit account probably before the end of the month when RIF goes offline.
Same, honestly it feels like a fresh start, but without all the bad shit of Reddit (I’m not even counting the recent API scam).
I just returned for a couple of minutes and it’s a fucking shitshow. I don’t know if it has become worse or if it just feels like that because Lemmy is much more friendly, but Reddit seems to be much more toxic right now.
It is also so obvious that people are trying to use this as some kind of coup. Users interact with the thematic, get explained what the blackout is about, just to comment complete bs about it one comment later. They are acting dumb to gain momentum.
I really hope this will end up in a worldpolitics situation.
Here is some additional context from an actual Mod of AdviceAnimals:
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I’ve inquired if they’re the one that phoned the Admins, but no reply yet. Having a top mod removed due to them unilaterally taking a sub private is not unprecedented, but it is an incredibly rare action.
EDIT: That user has confirmed they did not contact the Admins, and don’t know who did, but that is still consistent with actions taken by Admins in the past to remove an absentee top moderator that made a unilateral move more active mods disagreed with.
Additional additional context: The absentee head mod (legweed) returned a week before the protests and made a thread for all the mods of the sub to discuss whether to do a blackout. Basically nobody else meaningfully interacted except for the a single mod who was vehemently against it (CedarWolf), the same mod that was promoted by the admins.
The users of the sub overwhelmingly supported the blackout, but CedarWolf was involved in mass comment/post removals and bannings of pro-blackout content in the leadup. This included mod convo posts literally saying the community can’t make the decision for themselves and that they (CedarWolf) know what’s best for the community. At the same time legweed was trying to get other mods opinions but nobody actually responded until legweed make a stickied post to engage the community. This upset CedarWolf as he’d been spending most of his time suppressing those same conversations from happening.
I’m not saying an absentee mod should be able to show up an unilaterally private a sub, but in this case they were showing up to engage the community and the community was the one who asked to have it privated. None of the other mods really cared enough to argue, the one anti-blackout person was basically alone in their opinion and is equally responsible for a unilateral decision, except that one went against the community wishes.
Sure legweed was an absentee head mod, but CedarWolf wasn’t just active, he’s terminally online and has a really nasty superiority complex. I don’t think either is really head mod material but one sided with the admins and now they have the unilateral control they had already tried to exercise prior.
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Unsurprising that some power tripping mods aren’t willing to give up their little fiefdom
I’m not going to miss all this mod drama. Imagine being so wrapped up in your own bullshit, that you lose sight of the fact that you are a volunteer for a multi billion dollar capitalized organization, that has just a few guys literally about to cash out with billions here shortly. And it’s all on your back. Like what kind of muppet loser gets this drawn into dramatical bullshit like this?
The whole reddit thing was always going to disolve into an inevitable death spiral of horseshit, it’s only due to the honest to goodness mods trying to be good souls, that they were able to stave it off this long. The world’s just become too fucked up of a place when we are all connected like this, especially with the events of the last few years. Then you throw a few capitalists into the room, hoo boy.
The only way this Lemmy thing works out, is if it’s well moderated (ie keep the spam and the actual bullshit off, otherwise fuck off with all the weird incel angsty drama), and if we can somehow keep the fat cats away from it. The whole federated thing is pretty genius, and is probably the best solution we are going to be able to manage to come up with at this time, as a firewall for that sorta stuff. I’m really excited to see where it goes from here.
This is certainly a different story, but still, admin taking action here is not super common.
Perhaps we should start a new post with this new information to discuss?
I don’t really know it’s worth a new post, because I don’t think this information really changes what we will see happen, which is realistically three things:
- Subs that didn’t commit to an indefinite protest are already coming back online, like /r/technology. Admins will be happy with that and do nothing.
- Subs that did commit to an indefinite protest but didn’t do so unanimously will have lower mods reach out to Admins to get higher mods removed, and open the subs back up. This is what happened with Advice Animals.
- Subs that did commit to an indefinite protest and did do so unanimously will have old mod teams removed and new mod teams put in. If they do this, they will probably do it later, and while there may be some uproar, anybody who really cares about this by then will probably have already left reddit.
The fact that it was not super common previously doesn’t mean it won’t become more common, especially as precedent was set year ago.
Well, I say that because each of those three situations is different. 1 does not add to the scumminess. 2 is borderline, but if mods are fighting over this, it does make sense for admins to step in. They are the only one with the power to settle that. But 3… that’s just absolute scum.
The added info moved the advice animals case from 3 to 2 for me, and changes the situation. Have we seen 3 happen yet? I do expect it will happen, but has it happened?
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Lol, now I kind of wish you hadn’t. The subreddit I got this from is private and it got enough attention to get me banned for leaking. Whelp…
lol oops, tbf, i told you what I would do
sorry though.
Since the text has been copied at this point from another source, mind deleting the image?
think ill do the image and the post, i posted this here because lemmy.world looked like a big gen discussion the other day.
Your diligence is appreciated!!
