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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutā€™nā€™paste it into its own post ā€” thereā€™s no quota for posting and the bar really isnā€™t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but thereā€™s no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iā€™m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. Iā€™m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyā€™re inescapable at this point, yet I donā€™t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnā€™t be surgeons because they didnā€™t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canā€™t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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      We can add that to the list of things threatening to bring FOSS as a whole crashing down.

      Plus the culture being utterly rancid, the large-scale AI plagiarism, the declining industry surplus FOSS has taken for granted, having Richard Stallman taint the whole movement by association, the likely-tanking popularity of FOSS licenses, AI being a general cancer on open-source and probably a bunch of other things Iā€™ve failed to recognise or make note of.

      FOSS culture being a dumpster fire is probably the biggest long-term issue - fixing that requires enough people within the FOSS community to recognise theyā€™re in a dumpster fire, and care about developing the distinctly non-technical skills necessary to un-fuck the dumpster fire.

      AIā€™s gonna be the more immediately pressing issue, of course - its damaging the commons by merely existing.

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        The problem with FOSS for me is the other side of the FOSS surplus: namely corporate encircling of the commons. The free software movement never had a political analysis of the power imbalance between capital owners and workers. This results in the ā€œFreedom 0ā€ dogma, which makes everything workers produce with a genuine communitarian, laudably pro-social sentiment, to be easily coopted and appropriated into the interests of capital owners (for example with embrace-and-extend, network effects, product bundling, or creative backstabbing of the kind Google did to Linux with the Android app store). LLM scrapers are just the latest iteration of this.

        A few years back various groups tried to tackle this problem with a shift to ā€œethical licensingā€, such as the non-violent license, the anti-capitalist software license, or the do no harm license. While license-based approaches wonā€™t stop capitalists from using the commons to target immigrants (NixOS), enable genocide (Meta) or bomb children (Google), this was in my view worthwhile as a rallying cry of sorts; drawing a line in the sand between capital owners and the public. So if you put your free time on a software project meant for everyone and some billionaire starts coopting it, you can at least make it clear itā€™s non-consensual, even if you canā€™t out-lawyer capital owners. But these ethical licenses initiatives didnā€™t seem to make any strides, due to the FOSS culture issue you describe; traditional software repositories didnā€™t acknowledge or make any infrastructure for them, and ethical licenses would still be generically ā€œnon-freeā€ in FOSS spaces.

        (Personally, I use FOSS operating systems for 26 years now; Iā€™ve given up on contributing or participating in the ā€œcommunityā€ a long time ago, burned out by all the bigotry, hostility, and First World-centrism of its forums.)