Typical “we know this feature is asked many times, but it not on our priority/ it is not planned”
I’m not criticizing open source itself, but I think this highlights a common issue in open source software, one that distinguishes widely adopted projects like Blender from others. Successful open source software tends to reach users beyond just those within the open source movement.
I know some might disagree, saying that these developers work for free, but that’s not the point here. Software is created for users, and if a developer declines to implement a feature requested by the user base, many will simply return to proprietary alternatives—like Adobe Photoshop or Photo Pea, in this case. This leaves these open source projects feeling like “second-class citizens” because they lack the specific features users need.
The meme is ironic lol. Why would anybody want a shape tool in gimp? Nobody is seriously asking for it. This is a joke that originated with that old greentext about anon getting beat up in the school parking lot for not being able to draw a circle in gimp
Every now and then, I just want a circle to start off with. A circle will capture 97% of the area I need before I grind down with the lasso. Can I draw a circle freehand? No, that shit is more like an oval or an abomination against God.
Is it enough to get me to start paying for Photoshop? No. I’ve even got it installed on my work computers that have Photoshop in case of licensing issues (it’s happened more than once). But I am a user and I have requested it unironically in the past.
So, beat me up after class but the sample size is at least one.
Tbf this is not exclusive to open source software. iOS famously didn’t have “copy and paste” until version 3, for instance. The zealots were the ones that insisted that it was unnecessary until Apple rolled it out.
Plex constantly has requests for obvious features that are stated to not be on their roadmap.
Yes it is frustrating, but it isn’t exclusive to open source development.
Lmfao unlocked a memory with this one, remember when Apple tried to force people to pay for that update? You could easily find the package and manually install it instead, but still lmfao.
I think the difference is that with open source you won’t lose money if the users leave. If you have creating a software that is not selling because it is missing a feature, you are incentivised to implement it.
That one is infuriating. Having a good client is so key to adoption… And Element is still really, really bad. Yes, it has almost all the features, but refusing multi-account is so so so annoying, and being Electron garbage is horrible. They have so much funding it’s ridiculous.
XMPP is another case where adoption has mostly failed exactly because there are no “flagship” clients that do it all.
That’s why DeltaChat looks so good. The official clients work great everywhere, and they can do it all!
Tbh on pc, I can have multiple accounts with different workspaces but the main problem is on mobile. It’s been 6 years and their progress isn’t even transparent. They keep moving the issue tracker and I searched so much but couldn’t find their issue tracker. The fact that this was the most requested and now imagine the condition of slightly less popular requests.
Really feel like some of these bigger projects should hire a competent leadership.
don’t even dream about it. I remember reading on their issue tracker one if them saying that such a feature needs to be accounted for from the beginning of planning an app. if you think about it, it makes sense. but I doubt anything has been done about it
This is literally on the road map for GIMP, right up top. (Status: no just means it hasn’t been started yet and isn’t planned for 3.2, not that it isn’t planned)
https://developer.gimp.org/core/roadmap/
Very true. You can find many cases of that though. Just the other day I was trying to get crypto quotes and accounting inside Gnucash, which has been supported by the backend API’s since forever ago, but the interface essentially doesn’t allow for it because the developers don’t consider crypto as currency, and don’t want to support custom currencies or even just using the existing data source API for anything but stocks, derivatives and fiat currencies.
Typical “we know this feature is asked many times, but it not on our priority/ it is not planned”
I’m not criticizing open source itself, but I think this highlights a common issue in open source software, one that distinguishes widely adopted projects like Blender from others. Successful open source software tends to reach users beyond just those within the open source movement.
I know some might disagree, saying that these developers work for free, but that’s not the point here. Software is created for users, and if a developer declines to implement a feature requested by the user base, many will simply return to proprietary alternatives—like Adobe Photoshop or Photo Pea, in this case. This leaves these open source projects feeling like “second-class citizens” because they lack the specific features users need.
The meme is ironic lol. Why would anybody want a shape tool in gimp? Nobody is seriously asking for it. This is a joke that originated with that old greentext about anon getting beat up in the school parking lot for not being able to draw a circle in gimp
Every now and then, I just want a circle to start off with. A circle will capture 97% of the area I need before I grind down with the lasso. Can I draw a circle freehand? No, that shit is more like an oval or an abomination against God.
Is it enough to get me to start paying for Photoshop? No. I’ve even got it installed on my work computers that have Photoshop in case of licensing issues (it’s happened more than once). But I am a user and I have requested it unironically in the past.
So, beat me up after class but the sample size is at least one.
blender is good because they changed course and made a more industry standard ui as requested by its users.
gimp devs wanna do things their own way period. 3.0 is a step in the right direction, coming a decade too late.
With the confirmation buttons in dialogs moved into the title bar?
thats how gtk3 apps are supposed to work.
gtk4 seem to have done away with most uses of it, strap in because thats another decade away.
😭
Tbf this is not exclusive to open source software. iOS famously didn’t have “copy and paste” until version 3, for instance. The zealots were the ones that insisted that it was unnecessary until Apple rolled it out.
Plex constantly has requests for obvious features that are stated to not be on their roadmap.
Yes it is frustrating, but it isn’t exclusive to open source development.
Lmfao unlocked a memory with this one, remember when Apple tried to force people to pay for that update? You could easily find the package and manually install it instead, but still lmfao.
I think the difference is that with open source you won’t lose money if the users leave. If you have creating a software that is not selling because it is missing a feature, you are incentivised to implement it.
Agree. Similar example is Matrix Element multi-account request. It’s the most requested but we still don’t know it’s roadmap.
That one is infuriating. Having a good client is so key to adoption… And Element is still really, really bad. Yes, it has almost all the features, but refusing multi-account is so so so annoying, and being Electron garbage is horrible. They have so much funding it’s ridiculous.
XMPP is another case where adoption has mostly failed exactly because there are no “flagship” clients that do it all.
That’s why DeltaChat looks so good. The official clients work great everywhere, and they can do it all!
Tbh on pc, I can have multiple accounts with different workspaces but the main problem is on mobile. It’s been 6 years and their progress isn’t even transparent. They keep moving the issue tracker and I searched so much but couldn’t find their issue tracker. The fact that this was the most requested and now imagine the condition of slightly less popular requests.
Really feel like some of these bigger projects should hire a competent leadership.
don’t even dream about it. I remember reading on their issue tracker one if them saying that such a feature needs to be accounted for from the beginning of planning an app. if you think about it, it makes sense. but I doubt anything has been done about it
Like others have said, it’s on the roadmap. They just need (or want) to add vector layers first. So progress is being made.
I have written up a comment when I realized you have probably meant gimp. this thread was about matrix.
but I can’t let it go to waste, so here it comes!
the roadmap (found here) that was cleaned out and archived 4 days ago?
and turns out it was not public either for a longer time
what do you mean by vector layers? SVG graphics come to mind but that doesn’t seem to be related
This is literally on the road map for GIMP, right up top. (Status: no just means it hasn’t been started yet and isn’t planned for 3.2, not that it isn’t planned) https://developer.gimp.org/core/roadmap/
Very true. You can find many cases of that though. Just the other day I was trying to get crypto quotes and accounting inside Gnucash, which has been supported by the backend API’s since forever ago, but the interface essentially doesn’t allow for it because the developers don’t consider crypto as currency, and don’t want to support custom currencies or even just using the existing data source API for anything but stocks, derivatives and fiat currencies.