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Last December the Court of Milan ordered Cloudflare to block sites added to Italy’s Piracy Shield system. Cloudflare sees itself as a neutral intermediary but increasingly frustrated rightsholders say it should play a more active role by assisting their fight against piracy. A decision issued by the same court now requires Google to poison its Public DNS to prevent access to pirate sites. It was handed down on March 11 without Google being heard in the matter.
Like I said prior, there is nuance to be had here.
We agree that Google products are generally a honeypot (good products that lure you in), but which products are honeypots are important.
You very likely want to avoid Chrome, Gemini, and Google Search - but 8.8.8.8 is not a honeypot, it is a loss-leader. You will be lured in from 8.8.8.8 if you say “huh. this is a great service. is there anymore?”, but 8.8.8.8 itself is not a malignant service.
Their EULA states that they log all traffic (originating IP, requested url, and destination IP). for “business purposes” (at least, the last time I read it). Seems like a honeypot to me…
I’ll leave the privacy policy here and let people decide for themselves.
They keep two types of logs. An identifiable one which is deleted in 24-48 hours (dns0 and quad9 also do this) and an anonymized one. There is no mention of “business partners”; and it also says explicitly that the information is not used to target ads.
As the privacy policy and service reads, it is not a honeypot. However, Google generally does not act in good faith, so there’s no telling if they have 100% adhered to the policy.
No matter, to make calculated and informed decisions, we should have all the facts in order.