People on twitter at each other’s throats for a recent trend in which you can use imageai filters to reproduce images in Studio Ghibli style.

Lots of people are throwing around the Miyazaki quote where he calls AI an “insult to life itself” - it’s worth noting that this came after he witnessed a simulation using AI animation to make a zombie body crawl across the ground. Miyazaki remarked that he has a very disabled friend he sees regularly, and that he can’t find this usage cool or interesting. He goes on to remark about generative AI later in the clip, but let’s be clear, that specific statement was disconnected.

I’m curious what the Lemmy opinion is here. Is this a short-lived fad or does it speak to larger ramifications in the creative industry? Is this a silly little image filter or a harbinger of global artistic doom?

  • FabioTheNewOrder@lemmy.world
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    24 days ago

    Keep stealing art from artists

    Artists start pushing back against the steal of their life work

    Is AI a tool for good?

    What the fuck is wrong with you people?? If I come and steal your house reselling it to unknown people how would you like it?

    We truly are living a time of complete idiocy

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      24 days ago

      The metaphor is off. It’s more like soneone steals the plans to your and thousands of similar houses from an architect, then builds a machine that builds houses like that from photos or drawings in seconds.

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      steal your house reselling it to unknown people Even if we assume AI training on images is plagiarism, is copying an image the same as stealing it if you don’t use it for commercial purposes? I can make shitty photoshops of the Mona Lisa eating pizza - am I stealing art from Da Vinci?

      Are most people really “reselling it to unknown people” or are they just using the model for fun? Is there any example of a business or individual successfully using the Ghibli model to create sellable goods? Seems to me the majority of people are just making cute portraits of their families.

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        So it’s a useless tool used to create useless trash cluttering the internet and wasting memory.

        Or is a tool used by those who created the algorithm to steal information from uniformed people and the skills of specific group of people without the creativity that makes these skills useful.

        In any case is an utterly irrelevant instrument which does not produce anything of value (in the best case) or is stealing data and knowledge for the profit of a very small minority of people possessing the algorithms.

        There is no use in keeping it alive and it should be destroyed before immediately.

        If you don’t believe so please present a user case where such a tool can do something good for humanity.

        Protip: you can’t

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      24 days ago

      Yes, it is how centrism work: defending the indifendibile because “muh everyone has a good point to make”.

      Fucking scum of the earth

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    24 days ago

    Reading the comments here, if the AI haters are right, I’m okay being wrong. The rage and blind hate is just indefensible.

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    I think of it in a way that parallels the invention of the power loom. Weaving was still around afterwards, but it absolutely transformed the industry. Hand weaving was still around, but it wasn’t economically viable anymore except as a luxury or hobby.

    That transition led to riots as it destroyed people’s livings. This will absolutely be transformational.

    These days you can still find hand woven stuff, but it is medicinally expensive. Once a certain amount of control and consistency exist for AI image making, it’s going to be the only thing most corporations and people use unless they are looking for a luxury experience or hobby.

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    24 days ago

    OpenAI is trolling, to keep themselves relevant.

    Eventually they’ll just get completely bought out by some mega-corp. Ultimately their contributions will have all the glory of a spellcheck or a spreadsheet.

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      8 days ago

      They did give us OpenAI gym (now Gymnasium) and PPO. It’s sad that they completely pivoted away from this line of work though.