To be fair, just because somebody said something good/reasonable, it doesn’t necessarily mean they walked the talk. You can probably find a good quote from any evil dictator.
I feel like this is a big thing modern communists have the biggest problem with. I mean, it’s a problem that spans most of the political spectrum, but communists have he biggest problem because it leads to them defending the ccp and denying history to prove that communism is good. Because political affiliation is team sports now, so it’s all about staking your ground and defending everything on your side, no matter how insane it makes you. Stalin did terrible things. It doesn’t mean he wasn’t right about some things. But e-communists just can’t seem to separate the two.
Yeah, and the absolute worst thing is, they’re gatekeeping harder than the Linux community.
So you’re apparently “Liberal” if you don’t think that Stalin was a G?
It’s not as if Stalin was beloved by his fellow party members either.
Lenin once said: "Stalin is too crude, and this defect which is entirely acceptable in our milieu and in relationships among us as communists, becomes unacceptable in the position of General Secretary. I therefore propose to comrades that they should devise a means of removing him from this job and should appoint to this job someone else who is distinguished from comrade Stalin in all other respects only by the single superior aspect that he should be more tolerant, more polite and more attentive towards comrades, less capricious, etc. "
Trotsky actively opposed Stalin and got the ice pick in return and last but not least Tito distanced Yugoslavia from the USSR after he fell out with Stalin.
Ofc Cyber Ghost doesn’t directly say that every opposition to Stalin is liberal but I do think he does heavily imply not simping for Stalin makes you a liberal (which would technically make Tito, Trotsky and even Lenin liberal and imo shows the absurdity of their thinking).
Stalin did that when he was ignoring his generals telling him that the Germans were going to invade, then WHEN THEY WERE ACTIVELY INVADING? Because he LIKED HITLER and THOUGHT HIS FRIEND WOULDN’T BETRAY HIM?
To be fair, just because somebody said something good/reasonable, it doesn’t necessarily mean they walked the talk. You can probably find a good quote from any evil dictator.
Okay but Stalin mostly walked the walk. 7 good fingers 3 rotten fingers and all that.
There are a fair amount of Hitler quotes that sound reasonable. Until you zoom out and look at the everything else, anyway.
The 3rd Reich had one of the strictest animal protection laws, it spoke out against smoking. and Hitler himself was vegetarian at the end of his life
Under George W. Bush, the US invested in HIV/AIDS programs
Just because somebody says / does something good doesn’t mean they’re a good person.
Nixon did a lot for improving environmental protections while also believing himself to be above the law in a way verging towards, “I am the state.”
I feel like this is a big thing modern communists have the biggest problem with. I mean, it’s a problem that spans most of the political spectrum, but communists have he biggest problem because it leads to them defending the ccp and denying history to prove that communism is good. Because political affiliation is team sports now, so it’s all about staking your ground and defending everything on your side, no matter how insane it makes you. Stalin did terrible things. It doesn’t mean he wasn’t right about some things. But e-communists just can’t seem to separate the two.
Yeah, and the absolute worst thing is, they’re gatekeeping harder than the Linux community.
So you’re apparently “Liberal” if you don’t think that Stalin was a G?
It’s not as if Stalin was beloved by his fellow party members either.
Lenin once said: "Stalin is too crude, and this defect which is entirely acceptable in our milieu and in relationships among us as communists, becomes unacceptable in the position of General Secretary. I therefore propose to comrades that they should devise a means of removing him from this job and should appoint to this job someone else who is distinguished from comrade Stalin in all other respects only by the single superior aspect that he should be more tolerant, more polite and more attentive towards comrades, less capricious, etc. "
Trotsky actively opposed Stalin and got the ice pick in return and last but not least Tito distanced Yugoslavia from the USSR after he fell out with Stalin.
Ofc Cyber Ghost doesn’t directly say that every opposition to Stalin is liberal but I do think he does heavily imply not simping for Stalin makes you a liberal (which would technically make Tito, Trotsky and even Lenin liberal and imo shows the absurdity of their thinking).
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Stalin did that when he was ignoring his generals telling him that the Germans were going to invade, then WHEN THEY WERE ACTIVELY INVADING? Because he LIKED HITLER and THOUGHT HIS FRIEND WOULDN’T BETRAY HIM?
THAT Stalin?
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fucking moron he literally talked about it. read literally anything that isn’t delivered to you by your fuckwit party.
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JFC you tankies are batshit insane lol.
Go outside and touch some grass.
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