You oost a link about a tiny two person aircraft. Its nice, its impressive, its also a world away from any commercial aircraft that could, for example, transport 60 people.
You also keep just assuming that tech will fix issues in the future, as if these issues are just problems that just need an already existing solution. That is not how the world works, that is not how physics works.
In the real world you can’t ever make batteries that will come even close to 50% of the power density of gasoline, let alone surpasses it for the reasons I already states in my previous post. These are fundamental issues that are extremely unlikely to be solved, ever.
That also ignores the safety issues which you also just handeash away.
Electrical aircraft won’t happen, for many of the same reasons we will never have electric rockets either
Tell me how much we haven’t done because it’s impossible, and how much we haven’t done because we haven’t tried?
There’s aspects of each when it comes to electrical aircraft. I know that taking a normal commercial jet, dropping in batteries instead of a fuel tank is not going to work. But there are real aspects that we are making incremental gains, and we will have to sacrifice in other areas, at least initially (e.g. using low-flying propellor planes instead of jet engines, regional range rather than transcontinental). I believe it’s you who is jumping to the conclusion that because we can’t go from a 2 person electric plane to a 60+ today means we can’t, ever, and ignoring all the middle steps.
you assume as if these issues are just problems that just need an already existing solution
There are some solutions that we haven’t discovered or put into practice. We’d have to try and find out to know if they would be commercially viable and safe.
What’s the formula, study or principle that prevents this physically (i.e.: how could we have both 2-person electric and fuel-powered planes, but designing a bigger one isn’t possible due to physics)?
I get that it’s difficult, for a larger capacity you need a larger body, a larger body means larger weight, and with today’s tech the energy required for takeoff might scale up faster than the space you get from the body after the required batteries are installed (I have no source for this but I imagine this is your thinking). But even if we couldn’t improve battery tech at all and doesn’t compare to fuel, I am not aware of any physical limits to how either the body and wing layout and shape, propulsion mechanism and other operating aspects couldn’t be further optimized given research and tech advancements that would allow us to compensate for that. If there are such limits, do enlighten me. I would also appreciate a linked source.
You oost a link about a tiny two person aircraft. Its nice, its impressive, its also a world away from any commercial aircraft that could, for example, transport 60 people.
You also keep just assuming that tech will fix issues in the future, as if these issues are just problems that just need an already existing solution. That is not how the world works, that is not how physics works.
In the real world you can’t ever make batteries that will come even close to 50% of the power density of gasoline, let alone surpasses it for the reasons I already states in my previous post. These are fundamental issues that are extremely unlikely to be solved, ever.
That also ignores the safety issues which you also just handeash away.
Electrical aircraft won’t happen, for many of the same reasons we will never have electric rockets either
Tell me how much we haven’t done because it’s impossible, and how much we haven’t done because we haven’t tried?
There’s aspects of each when it comes to electrical aircraft. I know that taking a normal commercial jet, dropping in batteries instead of a fuel tank is not going to work. But there are real aspects that we are making incremental gains, and we will have to sacrifice in other areas, at least initially (e.g. using low-flying propellor planes instead of jet engines, regional range rather than transcontinental). I believe it’s you who is jumping to the conclusion that because we can’t go from a 2 person electric plane to a 60+ today means we can’t, ever, and ignoring all the middle steps.
There are some solutions that we haven’t discovered or put into practice. We’d have to try and find out to know if they would be commercially viable and safe.
What’s the formula, study or principle that prevents this physically (i.e.: how could we have both 2-person electric and fuel-powered planes, but designing a bigger one isn’t possible due to physics)?
I get that it’s difficult, for a larger capacity you need a larger body, a larger body means larger weight, and with today’s tech the energy required for takeoff might scale up faster than the space you get from the body after the required batteries are installed (I have no source for this but I imagine this is your thinking). But even if we couldn’t improve battery tech at all and doesn’t compare to fuel, I am not aware of any physical limits to how either the body and wing layout and shape, propulsion mechanism and other operating aspects couldn’t be further optimized given research and tech advancements that would allow us to compensate for that. If there are such limits, do enlighten me. I would also appreciate a linked source.