So we better repress all political activism because it might be far right? The far right would applaud this concept and wouldn’t need outside supporters if you fight for their cause.
EDIT: Also most palestinians living here can’t become a permant resident because they would need certification from their state but Germany doesn’t recognize their state as one.
I didnt assume you want to prevent ALL protest. This would be literally one of the worst dictatorships in existens, few of them actually forbid all and every protest.
Trying to exclude people without papers from democracy while not giving those people a fair chance to get papers is still the closest thing to racial segregation the international court allows
Oh wait, international law art.20 Nr. 1 actually sets protests as a universal human right.
1. Any propaganda for war shall be prohibited by law.
2. Any advocacy of national, racial or religious hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence shall be prohibited by law.
Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association.
"
This in combination with art. 19 gives us the right to protest:
"Article 19
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.
It does, but with exactly a similar Problem as the US one: it garuantees freedom of speech and freedom of assembly, but only to CITIZENS.
Cause what does a politician care about people who can’t vote for him anyway -.-
Well kinda yes and kinda no. The US constitution speaks of “the people” which is not defined legally, while some interpret this as “all people in the world”, some interpret it as “all people with significant connection to the US” and some “all people of the political community, e.g. citizens”
While certainly better then Germany’s version with “all Germans have the right…” Which is clearly more restrictive, its is not as clear cut in the US either - thus maga supporters label immigrants or dissidents as “aliens” which are in their interpretation not part of “the people”
Help a tired brain out. Are you making the stupid argument that pro-Palestine advocacy is incitement to discrimination and hatred and war propaganda for Hamas?
So we better repress all political activism because it might be far right? The far right would applaud this concept and wouldn’t need outside supporters if you fight for their cause.
EDIT: Also most palestinians living here can’t become a permant resident because they would need certification from their state but Germany doesn’t recognize their state as one.
Protests by non-citizens is what I wrote.
Yeah and thats what i meant.
I didnt assume you want to prevent ALL protest. This would be literally one of the worst dictatorships in existens, few of them actually forbid all and every protest.
Trying to exclude people without papers from democracy while not giving those people a fair chance to get papers is still the closest thing to racial segregation the international court allows
Oh wait, international law art.20 Nr. 1 actually sets protests as a universal human right.
Which international law is that?
Do you mean the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.
Article 20 says:
1. Any propaganda for war shall be prohibited by law.
2. Any advocacy of national, racial or religious hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence shall be prohibited by law.
Universal declaration of human rights:
"Article 20
Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association. "
This in combination with art. 19 gives us the right to protest:
"Article 19
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.
"
Source: https://www.ohchr.org/en/human-rights/universal-declaration/translations/english
TIL “US constitution guarantees the right to free speech to everyone in the US despite your citizen status” https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2025/0415/1507664-j1-activism/
Not that the constitution matters to MAGA.
Does Germany have a similar section of their constitution?
It does, but with exactly a similar Problem as the US one: it garuantees freedom of speech and freedom of assembly, but only to CITIZENS. Cause what does a politician care about people who can’t vote for him anyway -.-
https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/gg/art_8.html
Read again: The US one is irrespective of citizenship.
Well kinda yes and kinda no. The US constitution speaks of “the people” which is not defined legally, while some interpret this as “all people in the world”, some interpret it as “all people with significant connection to the US” and some “all people of the political community, e.g. citizens”
While certainly better then Germany’s version with “all Germans have the right…” Which is clearly more restrictive, its is not as clear cut in the US either - thus maga supporters label immigrants or dissidents as “aliens” which are in their interpretation not part of “the people”
Thanks
Help a tired brain out. Are you making the stupid argument that pro-Palestine advocacy is incitement to discrimination and hatred and war propaganda for Hamas?
That was article 20. The other commenter said article 20 but didn’t say which international law.
First they came for…