What Biden has done is to cut the issuance of drilling leases to the minimum required by law, pass the Inflation Reduction Act, enact a regulation to force vehicle electrification, and similarly force fossil fuels out of most power plants.

What Biden has not done: stop issuing drilling permits or impose export restrictions on fossil fuels. The former has some serious limits because of how the courts treat the right to drill as a property right once you hold a drilling lease, and the latter is simply untested.

      • sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        41
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        The graph from OPs link shows a significant drop off under Obama, a steep rise under trump, and then another drop off under Biden. Kind of follows the Dem-Rep seesaw I’ve been experience for decades. It’s depressing that the Dems can’t do more, but the reality is they are also funded by the deep pockets of the fossil fuel industry, Dems can barely hold onto majorities as it is, and voters vote for these morally weak candidates over and over. I’m really at a fuck-this-place, and fuck-all-these-people stage. The only thing I really regret is bringing a kid into this world. Just very selfish and narcissistic on my behalf.

        • IndiBrony@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          26
          ·
          1 year ago

          I’m really at a fuck-this-place, and fuck-all-these-people stage. The only thing I really regret is bringing a kid into this world. Just very selfish and narcissistic on my behalf.

          Can’t say I’ve ever related to a statement this hard for a while. It’s all just a shitshow and we seem to be at the “fuck it, let’s ramp this up to 11” stage of self-extermination.

          • vivadanang@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            18
            ·
            1 year ago

            It’s all just a shitshow and we seem to be at the “fuck it, let’s ramp this up to 11” stage of self-extermination.

            meanwhile a third of the people are saying “oh we’ve got time, we just have to convince the people to come together and unify”

            and another third that’s saying “FUCK YOU I HAVE FIREARMS AND WILL ROLL COAL AS MUCH AS I WANT I WILL LITERALLY SPEW OIL! I AM ANGRY ALL THE TIME BECAUSE OF THE PAINT CHIPS AND LEADED FUEL EXPOSURE OF MY YOUTH AND ZERO HEALTHCARE INFRASTRUCTURE AND WILL PUNISH EACH AND EVERY OTHER HUMAN BEING WITH MY EFFLUENCE.”

            We’re stuck between kumbaya unity types and petrofascists meanwhile the world is COOKING.

            Meanwhile the Shell, Exxon & BP execs are just happy no one’s coming after them yet.

          • Buelldozer@lemmy.today
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            15
            arrow-down
            4
            ·
            1 year ago

            and we seem to be at the “fuck it, let’s ramp this up to 11” stage of self-extermination.

            We do?

            Here in the United States the amount of electricity generated by coal burning has dropped by 50% in the last 20 years and in that same time frame renewable energy has more than doubled. Greenhouse Gas emissions per capita were lower in 2020 than they were in 2000 and we now generate more energy from renewables than we do from coal.

            https://usafacts.org/topics/energy/

            We can argue that the changeover to renewables isn’t happening fast enough but “fuck it, let’s ramp this up to 11” isn’t happening at all, it’s actually quite the opposite.

            • vivadanang@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              11
              ·
              1 year ago

              one part of the population is trying desperately to change the course, the other is rolling coal, opening new wells, spewing gigatons of methane from their fracking operations and standing around with their thumbs up their asses wondering why it’s so damned hot now that a dem is in office.

              the people trying to change the course won’t make a difference once the bus has gone off the cliffside mate.

      • Buelldozer@lemmy.today
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        22
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        Why wait decades to fix something instead of fixing stuff now?

        The United States is not a Command Economy and The President is not a Dictator. The US via private enterprise is dumping ever larger sums into renewable energy production and is definitely making progress. It’s not happening fast enough but it IS happening.

          • silence7@slrpnk.netOPM
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            12
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            1 year ago

            The Republicans control the House of Representatives. Nothing can happen right now in the direction that we need as a result because zero of them will vote for it.

            The Inflation Reduction Act barely passed with Vice President Kamala Harris as a tiebreaking vote in the Senate because it was structured to fit within the budget reconciliation rules and therefore not subject to filibuster.

            It’s going to take a lot more Democrats in both the House and Senate before a moderate President can pass climate legislation. Even then, it’ll need to survive a court that’s hostile to the idea.

            • Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              8
              ·
              1 year ago

              That’s really the fundamental issue, isn’t it? There is absolutely no democratic processes on the federal level. We get to pull a lever once every two years, and that is supposed to be a meaningful democratic participatory process.

                • Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  I don’t think that organizing within a private corporate party apparatus counts as participating in the democratic process more generally. Especially one that has admitted it has no obligation to follow its own rules. There needs to be a direct democratic process on a federal level. The majority of the population, regardless of party affiliation, support measures such as universal healthcare, but our process doesn’t empower collective change, rather it empowers minority interests over the majority, as evidenced by the legislation pushed and policy positions held by the federal government. Even good representatives can’t do anything because they’re hamstrung by an inherently partisan political process. Let the people speak. Where they are allowed to speak, we have seen big changes, (legalization of cannabis, ending of qualified immunity, bail reform, etc), but where the only avenue for change is through elected office, we have stagnated for decades behind the rest of the developed world.

                  • silence7@slrpnk.netOPM
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    1 year ago

                    Organizing within the system is exactly how we’ve gotten as much as we have.

                    The alternative is to roll the dice with revolution, and that’s about as likely to end up in a much worse place than we’d otherwise get. That’s really only a rational choice when you don’t have other avenues to change policy.

            • vivadanang@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              1 year ago

              Nope, they could force it to a floor vote then contrast the dem’s votes to the rethuglican vote then compare the lobbying $ that goes to each.

              Put it to a vote then shame them. THE WORLD IS COOKING.

              • silence7@slrpnk.netOPM
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                6
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                1 year ago

                They can’t actually force a floor vote in the House because the Speaker there controls the schedule.

      • ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        It’s politically unpopular to do what need to be done. Moderate policies are popular policies. And moderate policies will move left the more people vote and the more old gens die.

          • ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            1 year ago

            They want action without any downside. Not taxes. No economic hardship. Just like everyone wants $2 worth of governance for $.50. When polled on individual policies most people are very progressive. When it comes time to pay for all of it they get very picky, and vote for candidates that will do nothing. And that’s the popular outcome currently. It’s the mean of opinion. We aren’t as progressive as we would like to be.

      • neanderthal@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        1 year ago

        I think people dislike moderates because they can be more realistic. Cars are one of the biggest contributors to GHG in the US. Most people literally need to drive cars due to how our transportation infrastructure is built. It will upwards of a decade to undo because it will require a lot of large construction projects. Those take time.

        Change requires support of the electorate or the current officials will get replaced. This is why people like Koch and Murdoch invest so heavily in propaganda.

        Militarily, the only real threat to the US by a foreign invasion is nukes. Our naval and air power is on a whole other level. China has way too much control of manufacturing, so going after the other problem child results in a global economic catastrophe.

        The BEST thing anyone can do is winning hearts and minds of US citizens to get them on board with what needs to be done. More moderate action is an easier sell. Once hedonic adaptation kicks in and people adjust to the new normal, we can move further. We are really close to being there. Look at my post history and read the nature article.

          • neanderthal@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            4
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            1 year ago

            I didn’t say anything about negotiating with Republicans. I’m not talking about negotiating at all. I’m talking more about selling ideas and change to the population.

            I didn’t read the rest of your comment, because you started out with something so ridiculous

            I don’t want to interact with you if you have that kind of attitude. Bye!

    • neanderthal@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      11
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      perfection is often the enemy of good.

      I whole heartedly agree. Things don’t change overnight. We can’t rebuild hundreds of cities to eliminate car dependency by next Wednesday.

      What we can change rapidly is behavior. It isn’t hard to convince someone to eat less beef when alternatives are cheaper. It isn’t hard to convince people that buying one nice 30 dollar shirt that looks better, feels better, and lasts for many years is cheaper than 2 20 dollar shirts that fade and unravel at the seems in a year.

      We can’t expect everyone to junk their canyoneros tomorrow. We can convince them to harass city officials into put bollards up on the bike lanes because more bikes is less traffic that they have to sit in.

    • Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      1 year ago

      Seriously he couldn’t pass the Build Back Better plan but then the Inflation Reduction Act provides a potentially unlimited amount of incentives/subsidies for green energy.

      Painting him as “just a moderate” on this issue is some centrist level bullshit, OP. He’s clearly giving oil, gas, and military convenient wins so they don’t ruin the world before the next US election. Yes, the oil barons have more political power than a sifnificant amount of voters.

    • cobra89@beehaw.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      Even by your linked article’s admission, that was kind of inconsequential:

      The 2017 GOP tax bill opened a small part of the pristine wildlife refuge for drilling, a measure championed by Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski, a Republican. But it was never developed or drilled – or came close to doing so. Haaland suspended the leases in June 2021, and some major oil companies, including Chevron, canceled their leases in the area the following year.

      However, the 2017 tax law mandates leasing in ANWR, meaning the Biden administration will have to launch a new leasing process and hold another lease sale by the end of 2024, albeit likely with tighter environmental provisions.

      So the companies had the permits for 4 years and never did anything with them, to the point where Chevron cancelled their own leases. And the leases will be auctioned off again next year.

      Meanwhile the Biden administration is granting applications for permits to drill on public and trial lands at a pace faster than the Trump administration at the same point. From the start of their administrations through March 27, Biden approved 7,118 permits and Trump 7,051, The Washington Post reported.

      About the permit approvals, the Bureau of Land Management has said the bureau has taken a “balanced approach to energy development and management of our nation’s public lands.”

      So yeah, while I think Biden is the most progressive president since FDR, his record on oil drilling isn’t so great.

      Edit: fix the order of some quotes.