• unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
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    9 days ago

    Nah. Only 4% of the trips of people inside Paris are made by car. If people inside Paris can do it, then so can people from outside Paris. Leave your car outside of the city and use the methods of transport that 96% of Parisians use. There is no right to car travel.

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      My main point was the living cost. I lived in Paris center in 8m2 for 400€. And paid the navigo pass around 70€ or even more.

      If you want to plan an ecological city, you don’t only need to reduce cars but create affordable public transport that connect city border to its center. And the article explain badly the challenge.

      Ecological planification can’t bypass social and economy. I was just arguing that you can’t do an ecological city if you don’t reduce rent in Paris’s center.

      The problem Paris face is its “gentrification”

      The city center is the most expensive one compared to living in rural area with a garden and few basic shop. And everything is less expensive outside Paris.

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        I lived in Paris center in 8m2 for 400€.

        Is this correct? 8 square meters? Was just a bed and a toilet next to it?

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          Yes. Toilet were collective. They were located outside my flat and digusting. I cleaned them with 1 liter of bleach. Maybe i exagerate but that was the first time of my life i used so much bleach.

          Here is the plan.

          Left side

          • 1 bed
          • 1 table + 1 chair

          Right side

          • 1 small kitchen
          • 1 shower
          • 1 wardrobe

          Between in the middle of left and right side, a small walking corridor of 45cm. With this, you can calculate the surface : 2meters x 4 meters

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      They may need to invest in dedicated transit stations and parking garages to accomplish this but IMO thats worth it to keep less cars within the city.