• Sunshine (she/her)@lemmy.caOP
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    17 hours ago

    People need to stop buying animal products and demand our politicians invest in renewables and public transit.

    Too many people have protested against bike lanes and apartment buildings when those are much better for the environment. So yeah let’s not the individuals off the hook completely.

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      16 hours ago

      There is no “hook” though. We shouldn’t be fighting against each other.

      Every person has a different level of personal sacrifice for the greater good that they are ok with. It is completely fine to be selfish. If that means that we’re fucked as a species, then that’s what that means.

      If we militantly blame people for still eating animal products for example, it’ll just create hostilities that are further entrenching the sides. Instead we need to push to compromises, everywhere. Make animal products more expensive, using the tax or whatever to offset their carbon impact. People that still want to buy it can buy it. Or say it’d be best to not eat animal products, but if that’s too hard, how about just a little less, however much is acceptable.

      It’s not optimal, absolutely true, but it has a much higher chance of working.

      • brbposting@sh.itjust.works
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        14 hours ago

        It is completely fine to be selfish.

        It’s completely legal usually…

        Absconding from moral duties, completely fine?

        Suppose “fine“ has to be clarified

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          8 hours ago

          Can you honestly say that you sacrifice everything for the environment? Have as little/positive carbon footprint as in any way possible?

          I’m saying that eventually stopping to sacrifice personal benefits for the common good is fine. I.e. being selfish.

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            8 hours ago

            Oh I’m a failure there, which doesn’t mean I should be shot, but it’s not completely fine I’m failing to protect the single inhabitable rock I want young family to be able to thrive on

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              6 hours ago

              While I said it’s completely fine to be selfish, I didn’t say it’s completely fine to be completely selfish. I think I made it pretty clear that I think some level of selfishness is completely fine, not every level of selfishness.