How is this not enforced by the court that ordered it? It should be 30 days and you end up in prison.
People are kept in prison without a conviction, for not affording bail. Owing a thousand times the lifetime earnings of other people should at the very least mean all your accounts and holdings are frozen, and you can’t spend anything without getting independent approval every time.
The settlement payout is on hold pending his bankruptcy case is why they haven’t done something like this. However, lawyers for the families are in fact trying to have his assets placed in a trust or have the bankruptcy case cancelled outright because of his spending. By design it’s a slow, complicated process where Jones has lots of legal (and illegal) avenues to delay paying. Fortunately Jones is so stupid and outlandish that he’s likely hurting his own case so I wouldn’t be surprised if a judge slaps him with more severe sanctions.
his bankruptcy case
The fact that he can simultaneously have a bankruptcy case and spend nearly six figures in a single month is absolutely infuriating.
its almost like our bankruptcy system is built by rich people for rich people.
Yes, at very least that!
They should put him under a conservatorship.
Welcome to the world of civil court decisions :(
If it had been a criminal defamation case, then it would be criminally enforcable… but all this really means is “a judge ruled you need to pay” and if you don’t pay, then you could sue them again for not paying, and it just goes in a loop over and over again. I have a friend whose family has been in a loop like this in civil court over a bad real estate venture for decades with someone who simply ignores the rulings.
It hangs over the head of the person who did it, but in the end it’s mostly just a “it’s on your permanent record” kind of stain which can stop people from working with you and damage your personal life, but it’s not like the kind of people who would work with Alex Jones don’t know who they’re working with.
That’s not true at all. You can garnish their wages or put a lien on their property. What do you think banks do if you don’t pay your loans?
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/tips-collecting-judgment-29479.html
It’s a lot harder with rich people, they typically aren’t reimbursed by traditional means, and they can afford to hire people to obscure your assets with your businesses or trust assets.
What do you think banks do if you don’t pay your loans?
They typically take what you put up as collateral, this is why banks typically require some sort of collateral even if the person is wealthy.
Not for signature loans
Yes, and that’s the reason they really don’t hand those out to just anyone, and when they do it’s typically in limited to under 50k.
Your comment was about “rich people”. There are plenty of those defaulting on signature loans larger than $50K.
Do you have any sources for that claim? There really isn’t a reason for a bank to lend a significant amount of money via an unsecured loan. Even people like musk and bezos have to levy their stock to secure large loans.
Seems to me that failing to pay a proper court ordered civil case should be a crime, at least in the case where you’re just ignoring the court order, not where you can’t actually pay.
There’s a bankruptcy process ongoing. He’s trying to trick it but is failing.
The ruling meant nothing. The guy is on the air now calling the Maui fire a false flag.
Dude spends more in a month than I make in a year and a half. Fuckin eat these pigs.
Damn, you’re doing alright at least. It’d take me almost 3 years to make that
Lol, I make 24k a year.
Oh god why? Is this a highschool-college or non-usa country thing?
I’m from Germany and I am just not really qualified xD.
What’s the quality of life like on that salary in Germany? And is that in euro or USD? Honestly very curious.
It’s EUR, so like 26k in Dollars or something like that. It’s pretty ok, tbh, I can pay rent and spend on stuff I want here and there. It’s pure speculation, but it’s probably a lot more comfortable than if I would live in the US. I am definitely not poor or anything, but most of the people I know definitely earn more.
26k in the U.S. is definitely poor and you’d be lucky if you could afford an apartment by yourself.
It was tight (bad-tight, not 90s-tight) trying to live in an American city on 40k/year.
5 years for me lol
6 years, I win
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Can’t wait for the roast Jeff Bezos and Warren Buffet pie!
Plenty of people out there spend more money just on soap and diffusers, than you or I make in a year and a half, lol
Rich people are never held to account, ever.
which is why people want to be rich. it’s way bigger benefit than the money.
people think about all the maga types that are ‘one day millionaires’. nah, it’s not about being rich for money, it’s about they back a guy who does the stuff they wish they could personally do. like be rabidly racist in public without consequence
ppp loans were/are the best example. Handout billions citizens with zero accountability.
Forgive some rich asshole who took out 5 false PPP loans? Mmm okay
Forgive your neighbors student debt they’ve been chipping away at for 10 years? Fuck that why should they get anything?!
It’s why these rich people back the GOP. The tax breaks are real but the consequences of social policies won’t affect them when they can fly wherever, put their kids in private schools and escape any social damage.
One of the people he owes millions of dollars to, Erica Lafferty, had to do a Kickstarter for a cancer treatment just so she has a better chance of not fucking dying. She still hasn’t seen a dime from Alex “I’m the Debil” Jones.
Shout out to Knowledge Fight and the work the boys have been putting in to expose and debunk Alex Jones’ constant stream of lies.
Fucking seize his assets and jail him for contempt already.
No, no. That suggests Rich people can get in trouble for doing dumb things. Can’t be having them treated like plebs?
And a pound of flesh.
He can spare it.
Piece of shit
One of the people he owes money to is a cancer patient who has to crowd fund her treatments
Trash bag human.
At least trash bags have a purpose. His only purpose is to provide a gender neutral bathroom once he’s in the grave.
Find him, tie him up by his feet, and shake his pockets clean.
Moose! Rocco! Help the judge find his checkbook.
Jones’ spending in July, which was up from nearly $75,000 in April, included his monthly $15,000 payment to his wife, Erika Wulff Jones — payouts called “fraudulent transfers” by lawyers for the Sandy Hook families. Jones says they’re required under a prenuptial agreement.
…what?
They somehow wrote in monthly “spousal maintenance” or similar payments in the prenup. It’s weird, but legal and enforceable in many states.
Jones probably chooses to try and keep some money in the family by sending it to his wife. I don’t really know if there’s a debtor hierarchy for this sort of thing, but until somebody challenges it, he’s going to keep doing it.
He got married in 2017 and the lawsuits were not filed until 2018. Did he know these lawsuits were coming or something?
Shit, if I had to marry somebody repulsive, I’d want to get something out of the deal. 15k a month is doctor money.
We obviously don’t know the ins and outs of their marriage, but this one might just not be about love.
They have a kid together. They must be pretty dedicated to the ruse.
You say this like people don’t make terrible relationship choices all the time.
You’re not wrong.
Not like he would marry her if she wasn’t willing to put out. People will do a lot for money.
Alex Jones is pretty weird. I don’t know if you can safely assume anything about him.
Someone really needs to sic a team of forensic accountants on this asshole.
I’d like to see what those people spend all that money on.
I mean I luckily don’t often have trouble making ends meet, but apart from buying a place to live in, I don’t know how they can spend that much. I currently have to spend a lot because of renovation work, but I suspect that’s not the reason. In normal times, my “big” spends would be… maybe big home appliances, or vacations (that’s a European thing)… If I went really wild, I could maybe conceive of spending… 15 000€ in a month (not that I could really afford it, but at least I could find stuff to do it).
Beyond that, I just don’t have any ideas.
It’s got to be people, right? All I can think is maybe he has a personal chef, personal trainer, staff like that that he has to pay?
Didn’t think about staff. A trainer to shape him into a more smelly asshole would make sense. That would be costly.
Lawyers.
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Probably at just one fast food restaurant.
Sad to see for the families. They deserve better.
“I mean, I’m a straight-up guy. I’m a do-good in Mayberry RFD.”
Lying little shit.
I’ve never wished death on someone before but that might be broken soon.
