also downvoted for preferring democracy lol
Any country that says that they don’t have any “homeless or beggars” is either lying, or killing people on the street.
Or living in a labour camp.
The part they don’t like talking about is the police approach homeless people in China and give them the option to either do whatever job tbey are given or go to prison and dissapear.
Man, there is so much missing from this.
When they refer to South Korea as Occupied Korea, I almost can’t breathe from laughing.
Hey, that’s me!
Sorry you had to go through so much hate.
It does feel bad, but I keep thinking about the people who don’t know any better falling into that way of thinking. If there is at least one person in there questioning their circle jerk. I feel like it can save people a lot of trouble.
Thanks for creating this post! I think it also helps.
Yeah sure, NK is a total utopia. Especially like the part where it says “Workers are the owner of the means of production” as if they didn’t have one dictator that was in charge without anyone really having a choice.
yeah Kim owns the means of production but he also works real hard /s
Maximal working hour: 8 per day.
And how many days per week?
10 for good citizens
20 in forced labor camps
It’s not forced labor, comrade, you’re free to exchange your work hours for torture sessions and reduced food rations!
I work 12hr shifts and I prefer it anyway.
what genre of work?
This I think is the indictment of the U.S.'s public education.
Are you implying that homelessness equates to education?
No, he’s saying that americans are dumb enough to believe such garbage
It’s universal though. USA at a higher percentage of people.
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You can criticize the US without making other authoritarian states look good. Both can be bad
Reality is a team sport, to some people. They have no objective means of evaluating claims. In their worldview, that is not what claims are for.
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Arguments are easy when you make shit up.
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“They should move if they love it so much” is not “deport them, because I am a cartoon villain, muahaha.”
Fuck off.
Successfully fucked off, good job admins.
Tankies can’t.
Their bodies have adapted so well to boot licking, they can actually get sick and die from shoe polish withdrawal. That’s the only rational explanation I can come up with.
Absolutely!
If the "D"RPK is so great, why can’t people leave?
You know your country is a grade A shit hole where leaving brands you a traitor. Assuming you’re successful that is, and don’t get killed for trying.
If it’s so great, why won’t they move there?
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“They just don’t to leave!”
/s, but also that’s actually their argument.
Its also a stupid argument, I love the country I’m in, but I’m still going to leave to go on holiday or something.
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Well yeah, it’s super fucking stupid, and a lie. And yet…
I’m surprised nobody ITT saw the Facebook page “The Soviet Reporter” owns. Despots gonna despot.
I also love the 여자 in the poster: She’s not allowed to shave her hair, she’s not allowed to wear street punk clothing, she’s not allow to show nipple, etc. etc… 신 I love DPKR propaganda /s
I want every ml in the world to move to north korea or china or any country they stan so much and live there for the rest of their life so that they will feel how “great” and “democratic” these “utopias” are.
They absolutely can move to their favourite places. Iran, China, Russia – But they never do. They’re very lazy. Or perhaps deep down they know that their entire being is a trend that they latched onto to look better.
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If you ever bring it up they’ll say something along the lines of “well why don’t you pay for my move then”.
I’ll pay for a one way ticket, the wonderful democratic utopia will provide them the rest.
I’ll chip in some dollars, lets crowdfund this!
I’ve found that they usually just quieten down, really odd.
They are probably from there
Most tankies are fat American basement dwellers fantasising about power.
Are they though?
I think a ton of them are, yeah. They’re kids who were fed propaganda about the USA being the greatest country in the world and after correctly realising it’s bullshit, they just flipped everything in their heads and started believing the exact opposite - and since they were told the USSR was a shithole, it must mean it’s a paradise on Earth.
The pendulum swings from one extreme to the other.
I do know that there are at least a few tankies from Iran, Turkey, China and Russia. (I’ve seen comments from them)
Yes, the rich happy north corean worker and his internet.
I mean China, Russia and any other authoritarian nation.
They are probably a result of brain washing done by authoritarian governments
also look at these weird ass rules. This is for the “korea” community
Insecure much?
I like how this ignores that not only did the DPRK start the war, but the vast majority of the UN lined up behind South Korea, after the USSR stormed out of the security council meeting - they still had quorum, but the Soviets apparently assumed they didn’t, or would adjourn, or something. They didn’t. As a direct result, United Nations Command was established to specifically support South Korea in 1950.
I love how this kinds of communities describe themselfes as welcome to discussion and the write all the “facts” as a rule and everybody who says anything els gets banned.
Yeah, I don’t really understand why tankies pretend to be liberals so much. So many of their communities are all like ‘discussion welcome!’
But of course it isn’t actually welcome. I’ve noticed that it’s special to tankies, and that other extremists openly embrace their ignorance.
They are communists not liberals
You’re getting a lot of downvotes but no explanation.
Communism is a classless stateless society. The fact that all these groups are massive states with untouchable political classes rebuts any assertion of communism. Second is the difference between nouns and adjectives. The Communist Party is a noun. Such parties are never able to be described as communist however. In fact Vanguard parties are an antithesis to communism. And would have to be overthrown before achieving communism.
If you take leninism / maoism seriously. They are supposed to be frameworks with which to jumpstart communism. Sort of like all that " one weird trick to perfect health that doctors hate" spam you see all over the internet. Bullshit.
They go around calling themselves communists and I believe them
We aren’t talking about the most rational people here
They’ve given you no reason to believe them. They’ve lied to you about everything. I too am a communist. Anarco communist. Everything I stand for is opposed to them. One of us must be wrong.
But here’s something to think about before you decide who’s correct. They want you and others to treat them as if they were communist do you really want to give them what they want? That seems counterintuitive to accept their claims on face value when they’re so dishonest about everything else.
While for my part all I’ve done is try to engage you in good faith and treat if you like an adult.
Maoists maybe.
Marx wouldn’t recognize any of them.
I don’t think it matters much
These are people who call NK a free country so we aren’t talking about the most rational beliefs
They aren’t communists either. But they long to be a liberal in red paint.
I’ve never seen a tankie want to be a liberal. They really like the world libtard.
lol they’re not communists.
Why can’t the be?
If someone says they they are a communist I believe them. (Sorry, I mean Marxist)
I, for one, am sick of the media I listen to constantly telling me it would be fine to completely destroy North Korea in an invasion.
I am seriously very curious about who these people are that are posting and participating in this place. Is it North Korean trolls? Normal trolls who are taking the piss? Western communists who know it’s bullshit but see it as their duty to say it anyway? Western communists who really believe it? Russians who just want to talk up their friends and poop on the US and don’t really care if anyone believes it or not? People with mental illness? People who just want a tribe to be part of? Is it just the lemmygrad admins just making on-brand activity on their server? Who the hell is participating in this? Why?
Also, I took a look. Their video of people “enjoying” is very weird. It reminds me of the USSR Billy Joel concert with him yelling at his crew to take the cameras off people because they were only allowed to have fun off camera.
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When the fuck did we downplay Palestine?
Also, that’s MAGA / toddler logic.
Western communists who know it’s bullshit but see it as their duty to say it anyway? People with mental illness? People who just want a tribe to be part of? Who the hell is participating in this? Why?
Yeah, pretty much summed it up. As for the why? it’s because they are lonely and lazy.
Also, I took a look. Their video of people “enjoying” is very weird. It reminds me of the USSR Billy Joel concert with him yelling at his crew to take the cameras off people because they were only allowed to have fun off camera.
I can believe the video is authentic. But it’s important to note that these are the 0.1 percent of North Koreans, the ultra rich. Most are incredibly impoverished. The video’s weird because none of them want to get sand on themselves, they don’t want to look like the dirty peasants, hence their awkward movements. Appearance is very important in North Korea.
Oh, it definitely looked genuine to me (although obviously I have no idea). It just didn’t look like anyone was having any fun.
And then people ask why the lemmy devs receive so little funding. I want to support lemmy but I just can’t morally support people pushing this agenda.
Nah, I’ve just been there and talked to everyone. They say it’s all good
Women and Men receive the same payment for the same work
That payment? $24 per year.
That’s not a joke. That is the real number at the black market exchange rate.
That is the real number at the black market exchange rate.
Which is the ONLY exchange rate, because North Korea.
99,9% Alphabetization
list not in alphabetical order, straight to a
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For anyone who like me was just confused and ignored it: They meant “literacy” but translated it badly.
Well rule number 3 on the sidebar says be skeptical of your sources, so I’m quite sure that this checks notes Facebook meme is correct in saying alphabetization.
Must have been the .1
Lol, the irony
D good start P alright jumped a lot not a lot of room left K … Well now it’s not.
How can they claim even over 75 percent alphabetization? Are we to deny reality?
