Yes, he wants to rid the party of useless incumbents, but he’s not trying to get rid of the architects of Democratic failure. He’s trying to replace a select few useless old incumbents with young corporate centrists. He wants us to conflate “young” with “progressive”, while he runs Baby Hillary and Nancy Junior.
The entire DNC - including Hogg - needs to be flushed
The relationship of Hogg to the rest of the DNC is the relationship between Sprite and Starry, while the American public are asking for single malt scotch.
I’m not just insulting them. I’m making it clear that the premise of their argument sounds legitimately bonkers to a person that considers themselves a staunch progressive.
Then articulate that. Because frankly when someone makes a claim like that and all you can respond is with insults it makes me think maybe they’re right. So at this point you have less credibility than that guy does.
On a personal level I’m curious what your arguments would be because I don’t frankly know what to make of David Hogg. Other than his stance on gun control, which do not endear me to him, he seems a little bit vague to me.
His stance on gun control doesn’t really agree with mine these days either, but there’s a reason for it: he is a survivor of the Parkland school shooting, and he was there as a student. That was an absolutely formative event for him, and I respect that he was able to turn that commitment to a single cause into political capital and drive. And I do think that he’s a damn sight more progressive than the vast majority of Democratic politicians in the country, despite my disagreement with him on many aspects of firearms ownership.
This is a new discovery for people who don’t want to primary centrists. Imagine that. Insults aren’t an acceptable replacement for having actual arguments? Centrists didn’t seem to think so when they spent a whole ass year screaming abuse at anyone who didn’t love their fucking genocide.
He’s positioned as the oligarch’s choice for succession. He was groomed for politics by corporate centrists because he’s got a compelling backstory.
And now that he’s pulling a reverse Fetterman, you hate him. Centrists thought they were getting yet another corporate turd like they wanted, but he turned out to actually want to fix things they like broken.
These shit bags will never learn
people will apparently never learn democrats are controlled opposition
But you gotta vote every 4 years for the people who actively hate you and do nothing about Trump!!! How else are people going to be saved?!
So the people in control want to raise taxes on billionaires and/or corporations like the last 3 Dem presidents did? I don’t think so.
you have the numbers on it? i really doubt they really disturbed profits in a significant manner.
and when they do they grant some government money to them. elon musk is a prime example but there are more.
Hogg is just another of the shitbags.
Yes, he wants to rid the party of useless incumbents, but he’s not trying to get rid of the architects of Democratic failure. He’s trying to replace a select few useless old incumbents with young corporate centrists. He wants us to conflate “young” with “progressive”, while he runs Baby Hillary and Nancy Junior.
The entire DNC - including Hogg - needs to be flushed
If Hogg were attempting to further entrench centrist hegemony, party leadership wouldn’t be opposing him.
The relationship of Hogg to the rest of the DNC is the relationship between Sprite and Starry, while the American public are asking for single malt scotch.
What the actual fuck are you talking about
He’s positioned as the oligarch’s choice for succession. He was groomed for politics by corporate centrists because he’s got a compelling backstory.
The party leadership opposes him because they see he is going to replace them rather than support them. He’s just another part of the problem.
Are you high?
You know just insulting him doesn’t mean your arguments valid right?
I’m not just insulting them. I’m making it clear that the premise of their argument sounds legitimately bonkers to a person that considers themselves a staunch progressive.
Then articulate that. Because frankly when someone makes a claim like that and all you can respond is with insults it makes me think maybe they’re right. So at this point you have less credibility than that guy does.
On a personal level I’m curious what your arguments would be because I don’t frankly know what to make of David Hogg. Other than his stance on gun control, which do not endear me to him, he seems a little bit vague to me.
His stance on gun control doesn’t really agree with mine these days either, but there’s a reason for it: he is a survivor of the Parkland school shooting, and he was there as a student. That was an absolutely formative event for him, and I respect that he was able to turn that commitment to a single cause into political capital and drive. And I do think that he’s a damn sight more progressive than the vast majority of Democratic politicians in the country, despite my disagreement with him on many aspects of firearms ownership.
This is a new discovery for people who don’t want to primary centrists. Imagine that. Insults aren’t an acceptable replacement for having actual arguments? Centrists didn’t seem to think so when they spent a whole ass year screaming abuse at anyone who didn’t love their fucking genocide.
And now that he’s pulling a reverse Fetterman, you hate him. Centrists thought they were getting yet another corporate turd like they wanted, but he turned out to actually want to fix things they like broken.
Lipstick on a pig is all you’re getting from David Hogg. He’s not fixing anything.
So again, if he’s so far to the center, why are centrists trying to kick him out?
If everyone likes cola, why are the Pepsi fans trying to get rid of Coke?
Coke is, indeed, better than Pepsi, but we’re asking for Johnny Black.
I suppose you think this analogy makes sense.
I’ll take ramblings from a moron for 200 Alex.
Jesus fucking Christ, dude. Get off the internet for a few days.