i can’t believe this exists

  • GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    More importantly, you can have you creative violence without a highly racialized narrative of heroic genocide and sexualized rape. There is no need to be so defensive about the story because you think the mechanics of their gas chambers are creative.

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        Is this really a difficult puzzle for you? Ask anyone if the infants on a plantation should be killed and they would probably say no. Goblin Slayer says yes.

        Making a race ontologically evil and also coded as “savages” in order to justify genocide is fucked up. You are still reasoning on the level of a character in the setting when the problem is on the level of the author making the rules of the world.

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          the author making the rules of the world

          The author made this rule imo literally to head off nerds going “but wait what about all the little gobbos,” that’s the point of it. Y’all see the rape scene as some author fetish insert, I saw it as the author going “okay how do I establish that they are evil beyond reconciliation so that nerds don’t start to ask if the REAL way to slay goblins is FRIENDSHIP”

          Im sorry you wish the manga were called Goblin Befriender

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            Are you the person I talked about this last time with? God fucking damn it

            It’s like the most standard thing in smutty reactionary writing to have the big, dark skinned savages molest the fair-skinned lady in a way that is both highly sexualized and functions as a causus belli for the protagonists. Have you seen any of SAO’s arcs besides the first one and the Asuna-led one? All the others use this trope at some point as foreplay to their revenge porn.

            You are displaying a level of media literacy that would have you defending Birth of a Nation if not for social stigma. “Obviously the black people in this setting are ontologically savage to keep you nerds from worrying about the possibility that there are Good Ones! In this universe, the Klan is heroic, so there’s nothing wrong with cheering them on!”

            There is no questioning of why this is the story the author wants to tell. Why is it along racial lines? Why is it a story of genocide instead of some revenge porn against a specific gang, like happens in Taken? Why do we have our hero be identified primarily as an exterminator of life-unworthy-of-life and not as a protector of the innocent, despite that being the nominal justification of the story? Why is the evil race coded as savage, with dark skin, primitive tools, and ragged clothes? What relationship does a work like this have with the real world? Having people be wronged by goblins and then monomaniacly fixated on ethnic cleansing because they are all bad sure reminds me of something I’ve heard of before.

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              Are you the person I talked about this last time with? God fucking damn it

              If it bothers you you could not

              my brother in christ it is a goblin it is a fantasy creature

              Why is it along racial lines

              Because it is a dnd setting and it’s easy to write it that way

              Again i’m sorry it’s not goblin befriender. That’d be a good show too but ya know, this ain’t it

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                my brother in christ it is a goblin it is a fantasy creature

                Yes, a fantasy race one might even say. Tell me, was Birth of a Nation’s biggest problem that it didn’t make the black people have little cloven hooves and call them satyrs? Would it be above criticism if it merely depicted the revival of the Klan as a way to terrorize and slaughter these dark-skinned, lustful, savage satyrs with no relation to black people?

                Because it is a dnd setting and it’s easy to write it that way

                I promise you that it’s just as easy to write the enemy as being bandits. Hell, even writing them as slimes (an even-more-common bottom-level enemy, #1 along with rats) would be better, since those aren’t remotely humanoid but can have basically whatever properties the author wants because they are so literally amorphous.