Yeah but what’s their average salary? Still an amazing career if you are good at it. (Assuming AI doesn’t get 10x better and take all of our jobs.)
It’s actually in the table - median wage mid career:
- Art history: $71k
- Biology: $80k
- Compsci: $115k
How are you supposed to get good at it if you can’t get hired? Work for free for a while?
I dunno, I learnt as a hobby. I think most programmers I know did too.
I was going to say something about self teaching or volunteering (eg: working on open source stuff for free), but like giving your labor away for free kind of sucks. Do we expect other fields to do that? Are accountants just doing finance for free?
Also you won’t learn important stuff like how to work in a professional context. I’ve met hobby programmers that don’t know how to work on a team.
You’re not entirely wrong but I don’t think it’s a perfect solution
You should then average the salary over the time you were paid 0 because you were learning on your own, too
Wages are sticky in the short term. We’d want to see what downward pressure exists on offers to new grads.
Best of luck to those stuck right now
Mid career is more about people who graduated 20 years ago.
It has early career too - the difference there is even bigger.
Yeah. I mean the biology doubles but it sorta has to for anyone to make it to mid career and still be in the career. I know for a fact biology and chemistry majors were leaving the field a bit after graduation in the late 90’s. By and large they got certs and went to tech or MBA’s and went into management.
This is exclusively due to the LLM bubble
These are the numbers from 2023.
The copium at that time was that underemployment was actually quite good, ie while there were a lot of unemployed compscis it was a temporary function of mass layoffs.
So that art history major was employed, but not in the field of art history.
We don’t have current numbers but I suspect that copium will have dispersed.
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It says figures are from 2023 in one of the notes. It’s possible they just didn’t update that one though.
Wow, I guess the art history majors thing is a myth.
