The device they have come up with is the size of a thumbnail, one-fifth the width of a human hair, and capable of generating roughly one microwatt – enough to light a single pixel on a large LED screen.
So probably only going to be usable for low power devices for a while
The size almost seems like a feature. If it’s durable at all, you make a scale-maile coat that dehumidifies the sweat off of you and provides power for some sensors or something? The article mentions a washing machine size box that would power your whole house (but I’ll bet getting humidity to the middle would be a challenge for that form factor.
Imagine these being built into existing air conditioning units. In the right area they could reasonably power themselves.
Depends on if it can scale and how far apart each has to be from another. A single windmill is not as impressive but you get a field of them you generate much more, hopefully it can get closer to a solar panel and be spread along a large are.
Imagine dead space being utalized as a supliment.
That seems to be the main crux for all new forms of energy. I feel like I’m always reading an article about some new form of energy that has lots of potential but never hear about it again as it had no scalability. Hoping this pans out but I’m always skeptical of these types of articles until they actually become something.
It would for places that don’t have enough sunlight 🤔
Here’s the explanation of the physics they gave:
Each nanowire was less than one-thousandth the diameter of a human hair, wide enough that an airborne water molecule could enter, but so narrow it would bump around inside the tube. Each bump, the team realised, lent the material a small charge, and as the frequency of bumps increased, one end of the tube became differently charged from the other.
"So it’s really like a battery,” says Yao. “You have a positive pull and a negative pull, and when you connect them the charge is going to flow.”
One thing that hasn’t been mentioned here is that at a large scale this probably has significant impacts on weather patterns.
I assume a byproduct of this would be water. So you just make it here instead of as rain. Natural watering of crops etc could be an issue so irrigation may need to be implemented however
It’s not nearly that simple. In the US for example, widespread use of this technology along the coasts (where it’s most effective) could mean middle america nearly never gets rain. Unfortunately, that’s where the food comes from and it’s no simple task to pump water from the coast to the midwest.
Florida: You all ain’t ready for all this POWAAAAAAA
Won’t somebody please think about the poor lowly fossil fuel company shareholders.
How will they ever achieve pertetual growth every quarter if this tech gains traction.
We should tax these new technologies so that fossil fuels can still compete
/s in case its not obvious lol
Sadly, the pressure of the newfound glory pushed him to the end. He tied his hand behind his back and shot himself three times in the head. Rip.
Surely this tragedy had nothing to do with the innocent fossil fuel industry hitman found leaving the house holding cut length of rope.
American southeast could single handedly power the country
except for the pollen. Nanopores / tiny holes seem like they’d get fouled up by dust and things pretty quickly.
really interesting idea, just wonder about the real world operating environment issues.
Bring the device to the south East during the summer and you’ll produce more power than a nuclear power plant
The US east coast period—gets just as humid up there, just not quite as blast furnace hot all the damn time. Just sometimes.
It would be amazing if this technology is able to scale and go down in cost. There are so many possible implementations, it would be a really great way of creating a more sustainable future.
It won’t (my personal totally empty prediction). To get humidity in larger scale it means getting air flow. Air flow in sufficient numbers doesn’t come out of no where. Usually with this kind of stuff one quickly finds one needs just insane amount of flow to scale meaning big blower fans and then you find you spend all the energy you produce running the fans and other needed ancillary equipment.
“The beauty is that the air is everywhere,” says Yao. “Even though a thin sheet of the device gives out a very tiny amount of electricity or power, in principle, we can stack multiple layers in vertical space to increase the power.”
And when you start stacking the layers you need pressure to push the air through the layers and so on meaning, supply fans. Otherwise eventually on big enough system you find… the system sucks all the moisture out of the air locally and then no more electricity. They aren’t pulling energy out of air, but out of humidity . First is plentiful in atmosphere, second is at times very finite quantity locally. Sure on the wider atmosphere the humidity is plentiful, but again how you get that humidity to the device constantly. There needs to be airflow. With small enough device like those micro watts, well the humidity present ambiently is enough, since it consumes next to nothing. Start to scale up and well the ambient humidity is not enough. Not unless you are at windy sea front at which point… why not just put up a wind turbine and a sea front sea wave power station.
It might find utility as small local power source with not much power required, but grid scale thing it most likely won’t be. aka it isn’t hog wash, but when they start talking “yeah, but we put 100k of these disks in a stack and it will be this much power” you must start asking “so how many kilogram of H2O is that thing ingesting per minute, is there that much H20 weight in the air in the first place. If not how big fans and turbine you need to drive new moist air to it”.
Is it possible that this could be included in modern wind turbines to increase efficiency?
Not atleast to the blades, this needs air to flow through it, wind turbines need air flow to push the blades. Exact opposite needs. Any flow through thing like this would cause either loss of power as the blade itself or source of drag as ancillary to the blades.
Like one could put one next to wind turbine, but question is their sense in it. Why not just use the turbines directly and put up extra turbines at expense of this machine.
They would have to have amazing full cycle efficiency to make it work. Not like that doesn’t happen at times like heat pump powered by electricity being better than direct electric heating. However as said they would have to show pretty amazing efficiency numbers and at scale. Just because it works in small scale in lab doesn’t mean it works at large scale or outside of sterile lab environment.
It won’t (my personal totally empty prediction). To get humidity in larger scale it means getting air flow. Air flow in sufficient numbers doesn’t come out of no where. Usually with this kind of stuff one quickly finds one needs just insane amount of flow to scale meaning big blower fans and then you find you spend all the energy you produce running the fans and other needed ancillary equipment.
It’s possible to use direct mechanical power harvested from renewables to turn the fans, though depending on the effiency it might make more sense to just convert that mechanical power directly into electricity. But, for example, a windmill (as opposed to a wind turbine) could harvest large scale natural air flow and then mechanically leverage that to move humid air at a smaller scale. Same with dams.
Well I hope they stay safe 😳
Arkansas about to become a national power king, then. We have aaaaalll the humidity you could want. Forever and always…please take as much as you want
Wow. Presumably coastal northern communities could be big beneficiaries of this in the future. Lets hope it’s not literal vapourware
Wow. Presumably coastal northern communities could be big beneficiaries of this in the future. Lets hope it’s not literal vapourware
Wow this is really exciting
So said they’re all gonna have a brain aneurysm a week from now:(
