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    4 days ago

    Does anybody else find it weird that we’re boycotting one mega corp then using another mega corp’s platform to view this?

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            Feel free to create a new platform.

            Lemmy barely works and it just shuffles text for a few hundred thousand users. Try creating a 4k video platform for billions without “being a megacorp”.

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              3 days ago

              There’s a weird amount of support for YouTube in these replies.

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                3 days ago

                The business direction, moderation, scams and copyright strike weaponization deserve their criticism, but on an engineering level it is an amazing feat. I’m still impressed how they manage to make it work at the scale it is.

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      Yes. The economy is impossible to navigate 100% of the time with your ethics fully intact. There are no perfect answers, only better ones.

      I encourage you and everyone to avoid black-and-white thinking about this, and instead, invite a nuanced approach. Strive to make better decisions, but embrace the fact that perfection is impossible. Compromise doesn’t undo your ethical fiber, but do be aware of the consequences of the choices you make.

      Edit: I’m around if anyone wants a deeper convo about this.

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      i agree with your sentiment, but misunderstand the ‘confusion’ (definately wrong word, sorry) about the source being on yt.

      of course one mega corp is going to utilise another mega corps infrastructure. these institutions must back each other, forcing customers to go to their friends store is better (and cheaper) for them in every imaginable sense.

      i guess what the crux of my misunderstanding is why the source even matters. really the source is abc or whatever, so uploading it to peertube or archive.org is better anyway, right?

      idk, let me know if i understood or not.

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        Because we boycotted Disney and caused financial harm to them, inciting a sliver of change then turned around and flooded YouTube with revenue from our views giving an equally terrible company money while they actively contribute to the same terrible ideologies as Disney does.

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      3 days ago

      Bro just discovered capitalism. Are you going to throw out your phone too? Or do you draw the line at child labor and blood metals?

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      I’m not boycotting Disney anymore. What they did was so far beyond the pale, it’s definitely deserved it (and I did). But finding a mega corp that has directly defied Trump at all is refreshing and imo should be positively reinforced.

      For the record, I’m giving them less than I did before. But incentives work and we need them to support basic rights.

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      Tell me when you find utopia. Until then, shut up and pick the lesser of evil choices that you’ve always had to choose from anyway.

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    I usually don’t watch his show (I prefer Stephen Colbert and John Oliver).

    But I’ve just watched the whole return monologue, and subscribed to Jimmy’s channel because of recent events.

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      Trump is a jackass, so he lies about everything. Kimmel has the second-highest viewership in the States, behind Colbert.

      If we want to talk numbers, Trump’s “The Apprentice” had a max 20 million viewers (peak was in season 1 😂), which took a nosedive each year for the entire run of the show.

      Kimmel’s YouTube channel has over 13 BILLION views with over 20 million subscribers and gaining over 100,000 new subscribers per month. Factor in viewers from TV and he destroyed Trump’s show no contest.

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    He should have gone on the attack and went after Trump even harder in the return monologue.

    It looks as if he is just scared of losing his job and capitulated.

    Disappointing, but I never did like Kimmel so I’m not surprised.

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      It wouldnt be just his job, but the entire production crew as well, which is quite a lot of people.

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        How dare they not sacrifice all their livelyhoods and mental health in the name of virtue signaling?

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      He should have called them out for trying to make it about Charlie Kirk when clearly it was retaliation for exposing Trumps disregard for Kirk as well as turning attention back to the Epstein files.

      I like Kimmel and watch him regularly. I honestly don’t know how real those tears were. Everyone was speculating he’d have to apologize. I feel like he narrowly skirted admitting any wrong doing by appeasing the mob with an appeal to emotion.

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      Was that ever in doubt?

      And this is why non-violent resistance is more effective than violent resistance. Non-violent resistance can be expensive to those in power. Since they only care about money, they will go whichever way costs them the least.

      Violent resistance on the other hand doesn’t cost the powers that be very much. In fact, given there’s a privatized prison industry and a massive defense industrial complex, a violent resistance movement is very profitable to a lot of people in power. Why else would they be trying to push a civil war so hard?

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    It had like 1.2 million views by 1 hour in after posting.

    I also think the channel crossed the 21 million subscriber threshold overnight.

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    But it only has 17 million views!

    Don’t get me wrong, that’s a lot—but a drop in the ocean by YouTube standards. Kimmel’s a lot less popular than I thought…

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    Will, having some controversy/talk around the show will do that for a show. Just like Colbert. Do you remember him?