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PugJesus@piefed.social to Pragmatic Leftist Theory@sh.itjust.worksEnglish · 5 months ago

No one is ever pure enough for the Terminally Online 'Leftist' brigade

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PugJesus@piefed.social to Pragmatic Leftist Theory@sh.itjust.worksEnglish · 5 months ago
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    > tankies aren’t really leftist

    Correct.

    > no true leftists would infight

    Ehhhhh.

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      No true leftist would infight an admitted socialist when there are milquetoast centrists and psychotic fascists on the menu

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        Are you sure?

        Have you checked?

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          It’s true by definition. If a person’s efforts are fighting people on the left then they are by definition not on the left.

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            So two people pointing at each other, insisting the other doesn’t really represent the left.

            Nevermind, I’m sure that’s trivial to sort out. There’s no deeper philosophical conflicts. Critical support can never be wrong.

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              The person in the image doesn’t care about philosophy. They just post outrage to farm engagement.

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                You can see ohnoooo, right? Each of you is claiming the other does not exist.

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        Any true leftist would fight any Nazi pretty much any time, sorry you don’t get that

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          Must be a right-wing agitator to call a socialist a Nazi, enjoy your block

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The neolibs are too far right. The tankies are doing whatever that is. Where’s the space for the people who want fully-automated-luxury-gay-space-communism, but realize that it’s gonna take a while and there are lots of steps between now and then? Here. This is that space.

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