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PugJesus@lemmy.world to Political Memes@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 years ago

An easy guide to anti-war positions in the Ukrainian War!

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An easy guide to anti-war positions in the Ukrainian War!

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PugJesus@lemmy.world to Political Memes@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 years ago
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  • Twentytwodividedby7@lemmy.world
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    As Churchill said, Nations that go down fighting rise again, but those who surrendered timely were finished. Slava Ukraini

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      Did he say that before or after causing the Bengal famine of 1943?

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        He had nothing to do with that. The famine was largely caused by natural disasters, crop disease, Japanese invasion of Burma, and incompetent local beurocrats.

        I would also imagine that he was a little busy with the impending fall of Europe in 1943 given the Americans did not join the war until 1944. I also looked at additional accounts and it appears the local government didn’t even declare a state of emergency, so how would he have known?

        https://providencemag.com/2023/05/cancelling-churchill-did-sir-winston-cause-the-bengal-famine/#:~:text=But this is simply not,leading exporter of rice regionally.

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          given the Americans did not join the war until 1944

          What? Do you think D-day was the first day of war for Americans? It wasn’t.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Army_campaigns_during_World_War_II

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            Or that Europe’s “fall” was pending in 1943. France had already been taken over by then, while the Battle of Britain had secured England’s airspace, and Russia was pushing back in the east. Germany had seen its high water mark at least two years before.

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            There was a rather Infamous Day a few years prior to that…best not feed the trolls I suppose

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          I wouldn’t trust an article from providence on this matter.

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            Care to provide an alternative then?

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              https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/29/winston-churchill-policies-contributed-to-1943-bengal-famine-study

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                But you said “caused”

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                  When would he be the cause, then? When he personally burns down granaries? I think if you were warned your actions might harm millions of people and you ignore those warnings you are a cause. Perhaps not the only one, but your choice is part of the problem.

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      France went down surrendering yet rose again - both during WWII.

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        They went down fighting. They fought badly, but so did everyone against Germany until they started taking things seriously.

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          Czechoslovakia then.

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