Do you also think that workers shouldn’t have tattoos?
Real question. Because up until a few years ago that was part of being “professional”.
The definition of professional is just a social construction. One created by and perpetuated by the bourgeoisie through their corporations. You can make the decision to discard it, and by doing so you can embrace a vast multicultural way of presenting things. Is some of that going to be strange and foreign to people outside of each culture? Yes it is. Is there anything wrong with that? Nah.
If I was on trial for murder, or something equally as serious, I’d want my attorney to look like an attorney.
I don’t care how good of an attorney they are, if they don’t look like one, I don’t think I’d hire them because it’s not what I think that matters, it’s what the jury or the judge thinks.
It’s the same for a pledge online. If you have little hearts flowing over your text and shitty design, it doesn’t matter what I think. It’s what everyone else thinks.
Great, but this isn’t that. This is the fediverse where the existence of unique subcultures are promoted and celebrated.
The only thing happening here is that redditors who are coming over to fedi for the first time are having a culture shock when they’re exposed to anything outside of “thanks for the gold gentlesir”, “rip my inbox” and nasally snorting about some logical fallacy in a basic conversation. Which is funny because the rest of the internet has always viewed reddit culture as a freakish attempt to act like being Sheldon Cooper from Big Bang is a good thing. Bazinga!
Not everything being specifically like this. But I’ll unironically say yes to everything being different and interesting. The problem here however is that you’re just railing against this because it’s something you dislike, while failing to acknowledge just how cringe parts of the culture that you do like are. I’m trying to highlight that not because there’s anything wrong with liking it (you do you!) but because you don’t exist in a space without weird culture yourself, you just don’t see it because you’ve completely normalised it, just like these subculture bubbles also have for the stuff that you immediately think is weird.
Sadly you’re now doing the thing where you don’t actually listen to what I’m saying and instead talk past me instead of to me. I haven’t called you a sanitised corpo drone.
I know this is going to sound condescending and rude, and I apologize in advance, but this is sort of like having a conversation with a much younger version of myself. When I was younger, I couldn’t get past the fact that people judged a book by it’s cover, or that you couldn’t see past my blue hair and NIN shirt… but the truth is perception is your reality. If you want to be taken seriously, you need to ‘dress’ the part. It might be ‘cringe’ to you, and it was to me when I was younger. I’m not saying this site needs to be whitewashed in corporate branding but it could be cleaned up in a way to make it merely passable. Floating hearts that cascade down the page? Why? Whats the message that has anything to do with pledging to defederate against facebook? The branding seems all over the place.
There is a reason that Change.org doesn’t look like this site. There is a reason that if you were hungry and saw two food trucks parked right next to each other, one with a professional appearance and the other that was a rusty van with the words ‘Tacos’ spray painted on the side, you’d probably ere on the side of caution and approach the one that wouldn’t look like it was going to give you food poisoning. Perhaps you would miss out on the best tacos in the world, sure… there is that chance… but there is also a chance that you dodged a bullet and played it safe and lived another day.
I stand by the fact that I believe this linked website is horrible if your goal is to get people to sign up to defederate against facebook.
I’m probably older than you if you’re remotely close to reddit’s average. You’re resorting to condescension because it’s an easy fallback. I won’t age myself but middle-aged is very much a descriptor I have to reckon with.
Floating hearts that cascade down the page? Why? Whats the message that has anything to do with pledging to defederate against facebook? The branding seems all over the place.
The point is that it is for the fediverse, and when you have actually spent some time on it outside of the couple weeks you’ve spent on lemmy, you’ll realise that it’s completely filled with weird subculture stuff like it. If you were familiar with fediverse more your response would be “yeah that makes sense”. The early adopters and communities on it before the reddit drama are pretty much the same people that put chiptunes in the last keygen you used.
Fair enough. The lemmy-verse is weird and magical, the subculture is unique. Nothing like it’s ever existed before.
Good luck on pushing that narrative on all the normies who are going to show in up in droves once reddit finally implodes. I don’t think everyone will get on board, but i’ve been wrong before… but again, judging from the fact that the largest lemmy instance isn’t on that pledge list, doesn’t bode well for your vision.
Do you also think that workers shouldn’t have tattoos?
Real question. Because up until a few years ago that was part of being “professional”.
The definition of professional is just a social construction. One created by and perpetuated by the bourgeoisie through their corporations. You can make the decision to discard it, and by doing so you can embrace a vast multicultural way of presenting things. Is some of that going to be strange and foreign to people outside of each culture? Yes it is. Is there anything wrong with that? Nah.
If I was on trial for murder, or something equally as serious, I’d want my attorney to look like an attorney.
I don’t care how good of an attorney they are, if they don’t look like one, I don’t think I’d hire them because it’s not what I think that matters, it’s what the jury or the judge thinks.
It’s the same for a pledge online. If you have little hearts flowing over your text and shitty design, it doesn’t matter what I think. It’s what everyone else thinks.
Great, but this isn’t that. This is the fediverse where the existence of unique subcultures are promoted and celebrated.
The only thing happening here is that redditors who are coming over to fedi for the first time are having a culture shock when they’re exposed to anything outside of “thanks for the gold gentlesir”, “rip my inbox” and nasally snorting about some logical fallacy in a basic conversation. Which is funny because the rest of the internet has always viewed reddit culture as a freakish attempt to act like being Sheldon Cooper from Big Bang is a good thing. Bazinga!
Ok, That’s it. Clearly.
I think everything should have that myspace vibe. Because without it we’d be sanitized corpo drones.
Not everything being specifically like this. But I’ll unironically say yes to everything being different and interesting. The problem here however is that you’re just railing against this because it’s something you dislike, while failing to acknowledge just how cringe parts of the culture that you do like are. I’m trying to highlight that not because there’s anything wrong with liking it (you do you!) but because you don’t exist in a space without weird culture yourself, you just don’t see it because you’ve completely normalised it, just like these subculture bubbles also have for the stuff that you immediately think is weird.
Sadly you’re now doing the thing where you don’t actually listen to what I’m saying and instead talk past me instead of to me. I haven’t called you a sanitised corpo drone.
I know this is going to sound condescending and rude, and I apologize in advance, but this is sort of like having a conversation with a much younger version of myself. When I was younger, I couldn’t get past the fact that people judged a book by it’s cover, or that you couldn’t see past my blue hair and NIN shirt… but the truth is perception is your reality. If you want to be taken seriously, you need to ‘dress’ the part. It might be ‘cringe’ to you, and it was to me when I was younger. I’m not saying this site needs to be whitewashed in corporate branding but it could be cleaned up in a way to make it merely passable. Floating hearts that cascade down the page? Why? Whats the message that has anything to do with pledging to defederate against facebook? The branding seems all over the place.
There is a reason that Change.org doesn’t look like this site. There is a reason that if you were hungry and saw two food trucks parked right next to each other, one with a professional appearance and the other that was a rusty van with the words ‘Tacos’ spray painted on the side, you’d probably ere on the side of caution and approach the one that wouldn’t look like it was going to give you food poisoning. Perhaps you would miss out on the best tacos in the world, sure… there is that chance… but there is also a chance that you dodged a bullet and played it safe and lived another day.
I stand by the fact that I believe this linked website is horrible if your goal is to get people to sign up to defederate against facebook.
I’m probably older than you if you’re remotely close to reddit’s average. You’re resorting to condescension because it’s an easy fallback. I won’t age myself but middle-aged is very much a descriptor I have to reckon with.
The point is that it is for the fediverse, and when you have actually spent some time on it outside of the couple weeks you’ve spent on lemmy, you’ll realise that it’s completely filled with weird subculture stuff like it. If you were familiar with fediverse more your response would be “yeah that makes sense”. The early adopters and communities on it before the reddit drama are pretty much the same people that put chiptunes in the last keygen you used.
Fellow middle aged person as well.
Fair enough. The lemmy-verse is weird and magical, the subculture is unique. Nothing like it’s ever existed before.
Good luck on pushing that narrative on all the normies who are going to show in up in droves once reddit finally implodes. I don’t think everyone will get on board, but i’ve been wrong before… but again, judging from the fact that the largest lemmy instance isn’t on that pledge list, doesn’t bode well for your vision.