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    2 months ago

    I have one and it quite happily says that 2+3x4=14

    Then that’s the wrong kind of calculator, genius. The kind that gets 20 does not have a stack. Which isn’t wrong, just different, because it’s not doing 2+3x4, it’s doing 2 += 3, x= 4.

    Would you understand it if someone said its notation has “implicit brackets” that work out to be left-to-right?

    • Then that’s the wrong kind of calculator, genius

      A calculator which gives the correct answer is the wrong kind of calculator, genius? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Now I’ve heard everything

      The kind that gets 20 does not have a stack

      And they are chain calculators, as it said in the manual, 🙄 not the “simple calculators” (of which mine is one) which was your original argument, but now you’re moving the goal-posts again because it’s been proven wrong, again 😂

      Which isn’t wrong, just different,

      Nope, it’s wrong

      it’s not doing 2+3x4, it’s doing 2 += 3, x=

      It was neither, liar. It was doing (a+b)xc, which, since it doesn’t have brackets, it tells you to do a+b=xc=, so as to evaluate the a+b first, because if you don’t press the equals at that point, and just enter a+bxc=, it will put the a+ on the the stack, and do the multiplication first, just like my calculator does 🙄

      Would you understand it if someone said its notation has “implicit brackets” that work out to be left-to-right?

      No, RPN has “implicit brackets” as you put it, and it most definitely does not go “left to right”, only chain calculators do 🙄

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        2 months ago

        Yes, an infix calculator is the wrong kind of calculator, when talking about four-function calculators that do not have a stack… because it has a stack. Insisting ‘but mine does have a stack!’ is the problem. And read usernames, you illiterate dingus.

        The Sinclair Executive in that manual does not have an equals key. What the fuck are you talking about?

        If you know what a chain calculator is, and you know how they work, why are you playing stupid?

        • when talking about four-function calculators that do not have a stack

          Chain calculators, as the second one said in the manual

          Insisting ‘but it does have a stack!’ is the problem

          The first one does have a stack. 🙄 You refusing to see it is the problem

          And read usernames

          Your mind’s been bleached - explains a lot 😂

          The Sinclair Executive in that manual does not have an equals key

          It has a += key. If the next keypress is a number it’s interpreted as +, if the next key pressed isn’t a number, like the x button, it’s interpeted as equals Duuuuhhh It even explicitly points out to you that the result of that keypress is (a+b) 🙄

          What the fuck are you talking about?

          The example in the manual. What are you talking about? 😂

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            2 months ago

            it’s not doing 2+3x4, it’s doing 2 += 3, x= 4

            It was neither, liar. It was doing (a+b)xc, which, since it doesn’t have brackets, it tells you to do a+b=xc=, so as to evaluate the a+b first, because if you don’t press the equals at that point, and just enter a+bxc=, it will put the a+ on the the stack, and do the multiplication first, just like my calculator does

            Yeah hey which of us said += and which of us said “press the equals” afterward?

            • Yeah hey which of us said += and which of us said “press the equals” afterward?

              I said both. you said “does not have an equals key” - even though it quite clearly does, but you wanted to gaslight us into believing it doesn’t have one because it proved you were wrong 🤣🤣🤣

                • That just displays the accumulator

                  Which is a single value stack, 🙄 but this calculator does indeed have a multivalue stack, so as to be able to do a+bxc, where it will put a+ on the stack (that’s two values, a and +), calculate bxc, then pop the stack and do the addition. If you instead want to do (a+b)xc, you have to press equals after a+b so that it will get evaluated before the Multiplication, because it doesn’t have Brackets keys 🙄

                  (a+b)c+(d+e)f “cannot be done as a simple calculation, it must be split into two parts.” Because there’s no stack

                  No, that’s because it doesn’t have any brackets keys 🙄 You can get away with one set of brackets as per the method shown, but you can’t do that with multiple brackets. You really have no idea how Maths or calculators work! 🤣🤣🤣

                  Here’s an online emulator for the Sinclair Cambridge, the upgraded scientific model

                  We’ve already established that’s a chain calculator Mr. needs remedial reading classes 🙄

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                    1 month ago

                    Chain calculators are the subject - we are talking about chain calculators - they’re the ones with only an accumulator. Comfort yourself by insisting that’s a stack, if that gets your rocks off, but the topic is calculators where 2+3*4 gets 20.

                    Like it does on the Sinclair Executive, because that calculator is also a chain calculator.

                    But y’know what, let’s pretend it isn’t - let’s play make-believe and say the Sinclair Executive could totes mcgoats do (a+b)c+(d+e)f, despite the very fucking short manual explicitly saying the opposite. Do you understand there are calculators that can’t? When you sneer ‘those are chain calculators,’ do you actually believe chain calculators are a thing that exists, and not just an imaginary excuse to nuh-uh at a stranger on the internet?