• Hawanja@lemmy.worldOP
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    3 months ago

    No, it is not spectulative.
    The answer which you’re refusing to admit to is “NO.”
    This conversation is a good metaphor for why you’re never going to dismantle imperialism and destroy capitalism.

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      3 months ago

      You don’t understand the difference between fact and speculation, and you only care about abuses not under the rule of your preferred party.

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        3 months ago

        No, you’re being disengenious by claiming there was any chance Kamala Harris would’ve invaded Venezuela when you know in real life that wouldn’t have happened. You’re doing this becuase you care more about what some dead people wrote in a book 140 years ago than the damage fascists are doing to people’s lives.

        But whatever, I have zero desire to argue. You don’t want to vote? Then don’t. Just don’t give me shit when I did the one activity that actually could’ve stopped this maddness from happening.

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          3 months ago

          I never mentioned any books.

          Please stop ranting nonsense.

          No one knows exactly what would have happened if the election results had been different, but everyone thoughtful and humane realizes serious abuses still would have been perpetrated.

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            3 months ago

            I never mentioned any books. Please stop ranting nonsense.

            I’m pretty sure you understood my reference, but whatever.

            No one knows exactly what would have happened if the election results had been different, but everyone thoughtful and humane realizes serious abuses still would have been perpetrated

            But THIS SERIOUS ABUSE would not have been perpetrated. I know it, you know it, but you’re pretending not to. If I had to guess why, it’s becuase you don’t want to admit the left’s attempt to punish the Democrats by not voting for them in 2020 has backfired beyond anyone’s worst nightmares.

            Like I said, don’t vote if you don’t want to, no one can force you to. But maybe stop lying to yourself about the ineffetiveness of your beliefs and your movement, then you won’t have to lie to me so much.

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              3 months ago

              I’m pretty sure you understood my reference, but whatever

              I think you are imagining things.

              But THIS SERIOUS ABUSE would not have been perpetrated.

              I don’t care. I care about all abuse. Every serious person understands that the causes of the myriad of abuses are larger than Trump.

              Trump is a symptom, not the underlying malady.

              We need to confront the malady, imperialism and capitalism.

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                3 months ago

                I don’t care. I care about all abuse. Every serious person understands that the causes of the myriad of abuses are larger than Trump.

                Ah ok. So I guess just fuck Venezuela then, right? I mean invading the country and kidnapping the president, that’s just a symptom.

                Since you don’t believe in participating in the poltical process, then please explain to me two things:

                1. Your plan to stop such human rights abuses from the Trump Administration.
                2. Your plan to prevent such abuses from any future presidential administration.

                In order to be conistent, your plan cannot include voting. Because you are too ideologically pure to sully yourself with liberal politics, i.e. democracy, you must instead tell me how you plan to achieve these things without it. This is your chance to convince me to join up, if I like your plan I’ll do what I can to help.

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                  3 months ago
                  • I care about all abuse

                  • I guess just fuck Venezuela then


                  • I think you are imagining things.

                  • Since you don’t believe in participating in the poltical process