Let’s see if piefed is as open as it claims to be. The creator and maintainer actually injects their own opinion into the source code. There are so many deny lists and a social score built into the system.
Piefed is great at putting in new features and making everything pretty. But it’s so opinionated, you’re better off on Reddit, imo.
You have point but on the other side, its goal is to avoid karma farming and help mods, admins for creating a serene place for discussion.
There is two distinct score : reputation, attitude.
Reputation is people’s reaction to your comment and post.
attitude is how you vote. If you do mass downvote, your ability to downvote is removed until you reach a balance between upvote/downvote.
When we post a gif, and everyone laugh, it’s easy to get a good reputation whereas elsewhere, i might post several terrible comments. That’s why posting gif doesn’t credit you reputation. You can’t use gif to bypass bad comment and get a good reputation.
I’m now intervening as a mod. The povokative passive-aggressive tone you used is a big no.
Please, can you edit your comment and just tell us that you disagree with the score system and remove your source and reddit part ?
Maybe you wanted to see your post removed for proving your point even futher as “See ? Piefed’s staff censorship ideas they doesn’t agree.”
I went to the your gif and read comments : you won’t see that kind of content here. I also asked users to edit their comment, here, when they critized lemmy and i expect you to do the same.
Our goal, is to create a serene space for discussion. Nothing more.
Yes, i disagree with lemmy dev’s political opinions but that’s not the main reason we enjoy Piefed. And when Nutomic asked me to share lemmy contact and documentation in iceshrimp dev’s channel, i helped him. :)
Let’s go back to your post :
The beggining is aggressive. Are you testing if Piefed is open ?
The meme link. We are from various countries, so the american flag…
opiniated ? A software isn’t neutral, it follows our ideas. For example i enjoy the rational discourse toolkit. :)
Reddit, was it necessary ? Last time i went there, i was surprised by the huge amount of bots and ads…we are better of on the fediverse, don’t you think ?
You can disagree with the score system, the no federated vote…and explain your point, why this and that…but not the way you did.
So please edit your comment and remove those above part
Users can choose what they prefer :
the way communities are moderated and managed
their software and its features, ui…
And i’m happy for them they can choose their favorite pie. If you prefer Lemmy, that’s great. :)
I cannot use a tone via text easily: see Poe’s law. It was meant to be informative and sort of speculative to the future of Piefed. I was happy when Piefed came around but this changed my view a little. I want all federation to succeed but having these things be embedded in the code and not flags to set (even though you can turn most off) just strikes me as concerning. I’m glad users have choices though, but we will still call out bad choices, as many do when calling out shitty instances like hexbear or .ml.
I will not remove the source and my opinion on it. I’ve been nothing but civil and understanding in the replies to my post and it’s clear it’s an opinion with using “imo”.
Your “source” is not a source of information : It is a meme. It doesn’t create the conditions for discussion and debate. A meme doesn’t invite people to share their thinking, people react.
That’s quite different from someone explaining that Piefed has a set of rules that rate our behaviour. The mood and reaction is quite different from there. Do you notice it ?
No, i’m not asking you to remove your opinion that you disagree with piefed score. I never told you that. I’m asking you to rewrite your post and create a proper space for discussion. And i explained why above…
I have already had a proper space for discussion. I’ve been civil in the replies. This is crazy to even be arguing about. If it’s a meme, why do you care? Are we to just discuss and bicker on the internet or create a better space?
Remove it if you want for not conforming to your rules of speech. I’m done.
Oh I see your issue. You thought I was linking the meme post, not the comment. Look at the comment I linked. That’s my source. I don’t give a crap about the meme, but the comment is a deep dive into the source code.
Let’s see if piefed is as open as it claims to be. The creator and maintainer actually injects their own opinion into the source code. There are so many deny lists and a social score built into the system.
Piefed is great at putting in new features and making everything pretty. But it’s so opinionated, you’re better off on Reddit, imo.
Source: https://lemmy.ml/comment/23662293
Almost all of these are able to be turned off.
By “social credit” you just mean a toned down version of Reddits karma (that doesn’t track positive score)?
No, like posting a gif leads you to have -1 social score, hidden, because you posted a gif. There’s so many opinions in the code.
You have point but on the other side, its goal is to avoid karma farming and help mods, admins for creating a serene place for discussion.
There is two distinct score : reputation, attitude.
When we post a gif, and everyone laugh, it’s easy to get a good reputation whereas elsewhere, i might post several terrible comments. That’s why posting gif doesn’t credit you reputation. You can’t use gif to bypass bad comment and get a good reputation.
That’s why it works like that.
Personally I’m fine with a comment getting removed if all they replied with is “this.” Sure that’s opinionated, but it’s a good opinion.
It can be turned off anyway, most of the others do turn it off.
His source is ml, you can easily take his comment as malicious
I’m now intervening as a mod. The povokative passive-aggressive tone you used is a big no.
Please, can you edit your comment and just tell us that you disagree with the score system and remove your source and reddit part ?
Maybe you wanted to see your post removed for proving your point even futher as “See ? Piefed’s staff censorship ideas they doesn’t agree.”
I went to the your gif and read comments : you won’t see that kind of content here. I also asked users to edit their comment, here, when they critized lemmy and i expect you to do the same.
Yes, i disagree with lemmy dev’s political opinions but that’s not the main reason we enjoy Piefed. And when Nutomic asked me to share lemmy contact and documentation in iceshrimp dev’s channel, i helped him. :)
Let’s go back to your post :
You can disagree with the score system, the no federated vote…and explain your point, why this and that…but not the way you did.
So please edit your comment and remove those above part
Users can choose what they prefer :
And i’m happy for them they can choose their favorite pie. If you prefer Lemmy, that’s great. :)
I cannot use a tone via text easily: see Poe’s law. It was meant to be informative and sort of speculative to the future of Piefed. I was happy when Piefed came around but this changed my view a little. I want all federation to succeed but having these things be embedded in the code and not flags to set (even though you can turn most off) just strikes me as concerning. I’m glad users have choices though, but we will still call out bad choices, as many do when calling out shitty instances like hexbear or .ml.
I will not remove the source and my opinion on it. I’ve been nothing but civil and understanding in the replies to my post and it’s clear it’s an opinion with using “imo”.
Your “source” is not a source of information : It is a meme. It doesn’t create the conditions for discussion and debate. A meme doesn’t invite people to share their thinking, people react.
That’s quite different from someone explaining that Piefed has a set of rules that rate our behaviour. The mood and reaction is quite different from there. Do you notice it ?
No, i’m not asking you to remove your opinion that you disagree with piefed score. I never told you that. I’m asking you to rewrite your post and create a proper space for discussion. And i explained why above…
I have already had a proper space for discussion. I’ve been civil in the replies. This is crazy to even be arguing about. If it’s a meme, why do you care? Are we to just discuss and bicker on the internet or create a better space?
Remove it if you want for not conforming to your rules of speech. I’m done.
Oh I see your issue. You thought I was linking the meme post, not the comment. Look at the comment I linked. That’s my source. I don’t give a crap about the meme, but the comment is a deep dive into the source code.
https://piefed.zip/c/fediverse/p/1005977/piefed-admin-settings-that-allow-to-enable-or-disable-content-filters-they-are-disabled-by#post_replies
Piefed is clearly an honeypot, you need to have severe brain injury to not understand it.
“ah…i cant wait to have my hidden social score, let’s join this unknown pit of shite.” -not a cop
Honeypot to what, exactly?