And for some reason the FuckAI peeps love em.
Was inspired to make this after seeing some truly pathetic comments on another post here.
Edit: Wow fuck the anti-AI trolls in this community. I didn’t think it would happen but they actually went as far as trying to dox me posting a picture of my house. What the fuck. That’s beyond not okay.
And for the record, this is a pro-AI post, and this is a pro-AI community on a Pro-AI instance. I am a real leftist and I’m not hiding from that. That’s not something to be ashamed of. You know what’s something to be ashamed of? Impersonating, harassing, and Doxxing people who post AI art. Yeah I said it, Art. AI Art, AI Art, It’s a kind of art, I don’t care if you don’t agree with that you do not get to dox people over that. Ever.
Yeah, no. I understand the problems with intellectual property and copyright. Its not an issue at the core of my politics but I’m at least somewhat aware of it. That’s not why people like me are pissed off over AI. We’re justifiably disgusted that people are pressing a button to create amalgamations of other people’s work. Work that, unlike whatever an LLM spits out, has had time, effort and humanity put into it. These people give a middle finger to anyone who creates, helping mega-corps kill the planet while they do it, and have the gall to consider the slop “art”.
You’re smoking some hard shit if you’re coming into a leftist space defending the fascist project that is generative AI lmao
The problems you’re describing have little to do with copyright
- Capitalists exploiting poor people and their work
- Capitalists exploiting the planet
Copyright is not the issue with GenAI as these problems exist regardless independently from any copyrights or AI shit, it’s just a bad excuse and does nothing but defend a bad system
Yeah, exactly! That’s what I’m trying to say in response to OP talking about “liberals” defending intellectual property, which I took to mean copyright in that case.
I feel like that’s the point of the post as well. It’s criticism of using copyright as the reason to bash on AI
I didn’t really get this impression from the post since there was nothing negative about generative AI beyond the pro-copyright argument. Frankly, it seems closer to pro-AI to me. The OP’s reply to the top-level comment doesn’t help either.
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You’re smoking some hard shit if you’re coming into a leftist space defending the fascist project that is generative AI lmao
And there it is, like any of the othe garbage liberal arguments it must contain fash jacketing or emotional attacks. What’s really funny is that you feel this is your community and that leftist values must align with your own Pro-IP sentiment. Which is what this is:
We’re justifiably disgusted that people are pressing a button to create amalgamations of other people’s work.
I guess lots of people think dbzer0’s stance on IP just means piracy and free stuff. But it also extends to making your own stuff from other people’s stuff whether they like it or not. And that’s the part that liberals such as yourself tend to struggle with, or even don’t particularly like.
It’s really funny that you think I’m the one out of place here when it is you who are spouting the same tired talking points, even outright fash-jacketing other users here because they don’t agree with your, very liberal and not at all leftist-anarchist viewpoints.
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What the fuck is going on in this thread? Feels like there are a lot of new low-quality accounts recently.
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Youre not a leftist
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Not when minor creators use it to make a basic living.
This is more of a bad system being incidentally used for a good thing. Using state violence to restrict dissemination of ideas for profit is morally wrong and frankly dystopian. The real issue here is that artists aren’t properly rewarded for their contributions to society and people aren’t guaranteed a base standard of living despite it being possible to do so. Besides, if the AI debacle is proving anything it’s that copyright, like all law in general, doesn’t apply to the rich, so I’d bet good money even its supposed benefits of to minor creators are mostly theoretical; I certainly doubt your average minor creator has the resources to take megacorps to court over non-blindingly obvious (and probably even blindingly obvious) IP theft.
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Before we talk wide-reaching systemic change, the obvious answer is: The exact same way they do right now? If copying minor creators’ art was profitable megacorps would’ve done it; no way these guys have the money to fight megacorps in court. People pay for art because they want to support creators, not because they’re compelled to by state violence. Your point might have held water if piracy wasn’t already easy as shit, but it is so nobody is being forced to pay for anything. Also as I said before even “original” content can be made with AI, and while the result is usually inferior the difference in quality likely won’t compel someone to pay for it if they don’t want to. For the most part, the law only protects the rich.
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The patronage model used to be quite popular.
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Using a government enforced monopoly to criminalize people sharing art and information is obviously immoral. So pretty much any other option is preferable
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Copyright is only a “good idea” in the context of capitalism. Nobody is arguing for going back to feudalism. If everyone had free housing, food and healthcare then art would be an expression of creativity, not a product to be sold.
Do you think those ma and pa artists you’re pretending this applies to actually have the funds to drag out copyright disputes in court for years at a time? You have to be wealthy for that. And even if they do end up doing it they can end up bankrupt even if they win, or they can be forced to drop it because they run out of money to keep fighting. The system you are talking about literally favors the wealthy, and it is so disingenuous to pretend otherwise.
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Just so you know: the person you’re responding to is impersonating OP.
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I agree with you, I just want to make it clear that it’s not the OP of the thread being an asshole, because the troll is trying to make zir look bad.
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I love a these angry anti-AI responses here, as if being vehemently against AI is the “default” or logical leftist position, and if you think otherwise, well you are not a real leftist.
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Facts
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25 mins old account.
Obvious troll is obvious.
This is some shit for brains troll too cowardly to say what they want to say on main so keeping an account exclusively for saying their horrible shitty views.
The left supports Human Rights. Trans Rights are Human Rights.
