There’s only one mod of [email protected]
I commented on their meme about Kamala Harris being just as likely to commit war crimes as Trump with an admittedly snarky, sarcastic reply that basically said “some of us wanted to whatever we could, as little as it might be, instead of watching the world burn. Must feel real morally superior safe behind that keyboard”
They banned me from the community for it.
Kinda funny for a community that bills itself as “free from the influence of .ml”
You chose to parrot some of the most blatant neoliberal talking points in an anarchist community, this is the natural conclusion to that. Honestly YDM, people in anarchist communities are very tired of neoliberal trolls coming into our spaces and whining about fixing the world through voting.
Anarchist community? That sure as shit isn’t what the community claims to be! I checked before replying. It claims to be “socialist”, and socialism is far as fuck from anarchist. So kindly explain to me how that is an anarchist space?
You can call it neoliberal if you want but decisions are made by the people who show up. That’s not political. It’s practical. And has nothing to do with my ideology. I’m a socialist, but I’m not a communist, and I sure as shit am not an anarchist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_anarchism
Socialism is only far as fuck from anarchism if you don’t know anything about anarchism
Social anarchism is not the part of anarchism that survived, my dude. People are rediscovering it now, sure, but socialism has never been predominantly or even plurality anarchist.
Claiming all socialist spaces as anarchist spaces is disingenuous at best, willfully misleading at worst
Hey @[email protected] do you disagree with or otherwise take issue with the assessment that [email protected] is an anarchist space? And if so, does it really change the fact that neatchee was and is continuing to spout neoliberal garbage in leftists spaces (dbzer0 included)?
100% an anarchist comm, as is the entire moderation team.
Even if it wasn’t, reformist and electorialism aren’t really leftist approaches of any sort outside of niche trots entryism.
if “hey, people who vote aren’t terrible people, they just want to try to do something to effect change” is neoliberal garbage well then call me a neoliberal socialist I guess?
didn’t realize “hey maybe don’t villainize voting” was now considered a conservative, right wing position but whatever you say
And frankly I don’t give a fuck what the mod thinks about you calling it anarchist, if the billboard out front says “socialist” and not “anarchist”, then don’t be fuckin surprised when non-anarchists show up. it is wild that you’ve boiled this down to “well some socialists are anarchists and the main mod is an anarchist, so even though it doesn’t say anarchist, it’s an anarchist space and you need to get out”. Absolutely wild.
As I said on the OP, free from ML influence my ass xD
Electoralist apologia is frowned upon in anarchist, socialist, and leftist spaces in general, and for the record [email protected] absolutely is an anarchist space because @[email protected] is the main mod and owner of the community and what he says goes. It also doesn’t really matter whether or not it is an anarchist space because at the end of the day it’s a leftist community and people acting like libs aren’t allowed or welcome there. And that includes electoralist apologists like yourself.
You acted like a shitlib and they threw you out. You might think that’s just @[email protected] being an ass, but this is an experience many liberals experience when spouting electoralist apologia in leftist spaces.
The community is advertised in its description as socialist. It makes no mention of anarchists. It is unreasonable to expect people to check the mods and servers ideology before commenting (not even posting…commenting). I’m not debating the right to kick me out. I’m calling the approach asinine for its lack of transparency and false equivalency.
The fact that you are so insistent on implying that supporting elections is antithetical to modern socialism is indicative of how disingenuous your argument is. You’re anarchists, and that’s fine. But please don’t pretend like all socialists, as a rule, reject the idea of elections, or that even most socialists are anarchists. It’s just lying with extra steps.
You seem confused. Electoralism and elections are two entirely different concepts.
Most leftists are against electoralism in general, because it only provides the illusion of democracy and hoodwinks the population into believing they live in a democracy, when in fact, the same rich assholes run the country no matter who is elected. That’s we push back against folks who seem to believe blaming leftists for the abject campaign/policy failures of the Dems is the best way to win an election. They literally lost to a pedophile rapist. That should tell you how popular their policies are.
The vast majority of leftists DO vote, but we are much more realistic about the likelihood of our votes bringing about any meaningful change to the status quo. But we 100% don’t want to be lectured by the electoralist Dems about how somehow it’s our fault Trump won, just because we aren’t on the bandwagon cheerleading for pro-genocide prosecutor Harris instead of pro-genocide Trump.
If they ever gave us a candidate who actually stands for the people, and not for CEOs, then leftists might warm to the Dems again. But the sad truth is the Dems are more unpopular then ever, because they have learned nothing from their own abject failures.
What people want is real change. All the Dems are offering is a return to the status quo. E.g., Did you know that more people were rounded up and deported under Obama’s first administration than under Trump?
Obama’s First Administration (2009-2012)
Trump’s Second Administration (January-June 2025)
Not claiming all socialist spaces are anarchist spaces. Just claiming that a socialist space on an anarchist instance shouldn’t really be a surprise, and claiming they’re unimaginably far apart from each other is a little odd
I think making a community, calling it socialist, and then banning someone for not being an anarchist, even if the instance itself is anarchist, is silly and a great example of someone power tripping 🤷♀️ It plays as a purity test on a broader space
Anarchism is libertarian socialism. You’re an idiot who doesn’t know what the words you’re using mean.
I was being hyperbolic. The actual point is that calling yourself a socialist community and only accepting anarchists is downright misleading to a significant portion of socialists and is representing yourself as something far more broad than you actually are