From: “Red Rosa: A Graphic Biography of Rosa Luxemburg” by Kate Evans.

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    This is going to make a lot of people from instances that end in .ml very angry.

    Prepare for the textwalls!

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    What’s annoying is that we probably would be a whole lot closer to actual communism and anarchism if the bolsheviks never took power and destroy all the communism that was happening during the Russian revolution.

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    MLs: “The only way to socialism is through violent, top-down revolution.”

    Syndicalists, getting every W known to man: “Are we a joke to you??”

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    Dr. Wolff made a great video today about this very topic! It essentially boiled down to saying that a socialist revolution can only succeed if there is also a revolution in the workplace. Workers need to elect their managers, and have a strong union to coordinate production between industries.

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      That was a really great episode, thanks for the shoutout! I usually only catch Economic Update on my local Leftist radio, but with that description I just had to seek it out, and I’m glad I did.

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      Not in my experience, but we’re all entitled to our own experiences, so I can’t fault you for yours.

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    “Those who would give up Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety” – Benjamin Franklin

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          What’s gone over my head, exactly? The entire purpose of a rules based society is you’re protected, mostly from other people.

          So please, explain it.

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            “Temporary” is the key word in that sentence. Benjamin Franklin said this famous quote in response to the governor of Pennsylvania being asked to levy a new tax to support the French and Indian war, which an old money family, the Penns, who ruled from afar, were trying to bribe him to veto. Ben Franklin was very much in favor of this tax and very much pro big government, so long as it was being done by the people (contrary to what all the libertarians who quote him seem to think). His argument was that if the governor kept taking bribes from the Penns, and just rolling over and doing whatever they told him to do, consequences to the state be damned, just so the Penns would keep the money flowing, he deserved whatever was coming to him when they decided to stop.

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      You heard it first from old Ben, stop saving money for retirement, you’re just giving up on your current liberty to have some temporary safety later in life.

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      The irony that in this quote he was supporting the authority of government specifically on taxation for long term defense. “Temporary” was kind of the whole point.

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        Which is precisely why it works in this context. He was talking about the Pennsylvania governor’s ability to levy a new tax which some Englanders who ruled from afar were trying to bribe him to veto. His argument was that if people gave up their ability to govern themselves and let some faraway Leviathan do it in the hopes that said Leviathan would keep them safe, they deserved whatever was coming to them. I think this translates nicely onto “Socialism is not some Christmas gift for those who accept a dictator now in the hopes of achieving freedom in the future.”