Heat pumps can’t take the cold? Nordics debunk the myth::By installing a heat pump in his house in the hills of Oslo, Oyvind Solstad killed three birds with one stone, improving his comfort, finances and climate footprint.

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      1 year ago

      If you are in a traffic jam, you lose range because of the heating. For gas cars, that doesn’t matter at all.

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        1 year ago

        A 1kw heater (less, given they’re all heat pumps these days) isn’t doing squat to the range compared to an 80kw motor.

        A gas car has to idle its engine to get heat. It’s burning fuel constantly… that’s why you frequently see broken down gas cars in heavy traffic.

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          1 year ago

          1l/h as I noted further down. Still less range lost relative to the maximal range than in an EV.

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            1 year ago

            Do you have a 100l tank?
            Because my ev uses about 1% an hour for heating.

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              1 year ago

              The whole discussion started for winter conditions. You can find the numbers in the other comment thread.

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          1 year ago

          From cooling the engine. When you are standing still and the engine is running it consumes about 1l/h. I just looked up some numbers for EVs: 100kWh battery, heating takes 1kW for every 10K temperature difference, so 3kWh in -10°C. Its higher if you use additional stuff like the heating for the seats. With 150kWh/100km consumption you lose 20km every hour you are in the heated car. I would say that’s a noticeable difference compared to no heating. I also checked how much an AC takes in summer and its about 1 to 2kW for 30°C.

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              The answers to your question is already in my post and the 150 was obviously a typo, because the loss in range checks out. It should be 15. AC uses less because the temperature difference is less.