UFC star Paige VanZant said OnlyFans allows her to make ‘life-changing money’
That says a lot about UFC.
UFC pays like shit for all but the top talent.
Tbf, she was never at risk of being considered that so it doesn’t say that much about the pay scale vs OF.
and thirsty dudes.
They are loaded?
Until they unload.
And people wonder why all these teachers are ending up on onlyfans
It’s not like the profession has been treating them with any more respect anyway.
One of the only major sports without a union
I always say the NFL is the worst sport for athletes because their bodies get destroyed in return for relatively little money (at least for everybody except the superstars), but that’s because I always forget about the UFC.
Still though a practice squad player in the NFL is clearing $500k+ a season. So it’s at least a decent amount of money. Is it worth the future health problems with no pension? Not my decision, but at least it is an amount of money where there is a decision to be made.
MMA, Boxing, WWE… Haha go fuck yourself.
Still though a practice squad player in the NFL is clearing $500k+ a season.
It seems practice squad players actually make a minimum of $12K per week or $216K per season. Still not that bad compared to conventional jobs, but it’s not like you can have a 40-year career doing that.
Pretty sure they have a pension if you make it like 3 years iirc
And with the effects on long term brain health they have been unraveling in the past few years its a no dawg from me thanks. Unfortunately I’ve already gone through my sports playing days so it was already a yeah dawg.
Don’t most sports league have unions? At least all major sports in the USA have player unions.
Yeah, in the USA all the main ones do. Idk about less popular ones like lacrosse or even MLS though
I don’t think so. If it was a male UFC fighter, he’d stand no chance of making as much money as her on a site like OnlyFans. And the UFC is pretty good about equal pay based on gender.
No, this is simply the newest iteration of one of the oldest truths in history: attractive women can milk desperate men for a king’s ransom any day of the week.
100% correct.
All work places are good about equal pay based on gender because they have to in the USA.
Except sports.
Women and men are in different leagues and often hired by different organizers. The same is true with people hired in all forms of entertainment. Thier skill and demand judge thier wages.
And probably a bit about UFC fans, too
For anyone that doesn’t want to click fox news:
https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2023/09/paige-vanzant-onlyfans-video-ufc-pay-money-net-worth
The real hero, here.
hey thanks!
She made that much because she’s a known fighter established within the UFC. UFC pays shit but it pays shit across the board unless you are a superstar.
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She’s making 50k a year + payouts from her fights.
Assuming a 100k win bonus (it’s actually closer to 400 if you believe random books blogs and Internet rumors) even on the low side shes already made 1M in the past 5 years or so.
Again estimating in their favor let’s say 60% of that goes to get camp and taxes. 125k a year for 3 fights is more than reasonable. It’s likely she is making more than that however.
She isn’t very popular and would never be able to support her own card. She’s also used her popularity to get on network TV, and rake in a few million by getting laid. It’s not even porn shoots. It’s her own terms and partners.
I’m not going to shed a tear for her. She’s set for life with any form of reasonable money management and clearly has leveraged her popularity from UFC and done well for herself.
If true, how much did she make in 24h on OnlyFans. She said it’s more than her entire career. I can’t believe she made over 1M in 1 day on OnlyFans.
You underestimate the power of thirst
It’s just 100k people paying 10 bucks each. It sounds like a lot of money but when you think about the numbers involved it gets really quite reasonable for someone in her position to do
I’m forgetting which UK news channel it was but they had a successful OF person on, tried the “what will your kids think of you” and she replied “they can cry about it in a Ferrari”
The American dream, when money matters more than morality.
There’s nothing inherently immoral about sex work.
It’s not even porn shoots. It’s her own terms and partners.
To somebody who doesn’t know the industry, can you explain to me why that matters in any way?
There’s probably a subtle difference between “exploiting yourself” and getting most of the money after OF fees, vs getting paid essentially minimum wage for a shoot which then gets repeatedly repackaged and distributed for the company that makes way more money off it than you ever did. Which on one hand is essentially the same as being any other actress, but also not remotely the same considering the material, and how many women regret being convinced to take part in it because of exposure and social backlash.
Would you like to shoot porn when someone you love and trust or a random person?
Would you like to shoot porn when someone you love and trust or a random person?
For me personally it would honestly depend on if it was for work or for pleasure.
For others, I have no idea.
My understanding of the original comment I replied to with my question was concerning business/work.
So you say I will not get much money on OF?
Not without some work and a nice set of titties or dick. Or maybe the fetish route.
What type of work? I can work.
Marketing, promotion, quality content generation - which in itself is a bucket load of work.
You’ve got actual production work, setting up a decent lighting/camera/sound system for your content, preparing everything you need to film or run a quality live stream. Post production, editing takes longer than people think.
But pre-production, there’s work to do on yourself, grooming and preparing physically, especially if you are going to be getting into anything fetish related, it adds another level of preparation (and possibly an extra level to post production clean up)
It’s also not something you can always compartmentalise, I have a friend who does some generic feet stuff, she had to quit swimming and change her entire gym routine to allow herself to shower at home, because catching athletes foot meant she’d loose income. She has to choose her socks and shoes based on protecting the physical appearance of her feet. She can’t just chuck on some thongs (flip flops) in summer because her clientele don’t like the tan lines and are vocal about it.
PR is important, you need to have time to engage with the audience, reply to messages and maintain the illusion of the parasocial relationship, to keep your subscribers keen. It can take easily take an hour a day to do if you have large enough fan base and want to maintain it.
There’s a lot to like about the “person next door” charm of a low budget, low effort approach to nudes and clips, but that’s what most people on OF are already doing, so if you want real money you have to set yourself apart from that.
Crybaby squat cobbler can pay in spades.
Marketing and promotion.
I think it’s sad seeing this considering all the women I know who have been suckered into making OFs only to make a few bucks from weirdos saving their nudes.
Porn is the same, really. Most people who do porn make very little money from it, but still have to deal with their naked bodies on the internet.
Seems like you should only do fans (and similar pages) if you already have a fan base in some other area. Otherwise it will end like you said.
Or if you just actually want to do sex work. It’s like camming. It can be a hobby where you pick up a couple bucks here and there. If you want it to be a job it’s going to be more like trying to make it as a musician or actor.
In general if you’re more or less normal you aren’t going to make any real money as a sex worker. Either you aren’t famous or attractive enough or you aren’t willing to do what it’ll take to make better money or you won’t settle for the little you’ll get or be willing to deal with people who have odd fetishes, possibly of your body type.
All internet media is basically the same on pay. Most people on you tube or twitch don’t make much either.
Yeah, but they don’t put their naked bodies out there.
Yep, even more so if they had to due to unfortunate reasons. Though not entirely, it works the same way as any average person starting something likestreaming and thinking of making it big quick.
I reckon she only had this much success due to having some level of popularity to begin with.
OF out there making up for the gender pay gap
Trust me, it’s not.
For every story like this, there are literally millions where regular women make next to nothing for their nudes.
Most normal women with OFs usually end up having a few subs from people they know who just want to distribute their nudes among peers. Imagine thinking you’re going to make thousands when you end up making less than $100, and now everyone has your nudes.
That’s the reality for most people on OF. And it’s sad.
It’s all down to exposure and even minor celebrity status can be leveraged to generate lots of views.
You see a similar thing in the acting community: celebrity actors aren’t really better as actors than lots of unknowns out there (the quality all around of acting in places with very good acting colleges and a strong acting tradition, such as Britain, is really good) and often you get stories of people’s careers taking off due to a mix of luck and persistence, and once people are in the public eye their careers pretty much shift gears (for reference, the average actor in the UK earns in average less than minimum wage from Acting).
If you consider “people having your nudes bad”. I’m sure some do/have but many just don’t care. My friend’s sister has one. I subbed to support her and because she’s hot. Unsubbed later because she was too expensive. Hung out with her at a party once and she didn’t give a flying shit I had seen her buck naked. We just talked about normal stuff.
Lol, no joke, I thought you said “your sister” instead of your friend’s sister.
I was like wtf lmao.
Gotta support your fam.
Dom would be proud.
I can’t believe this stuff, because it is a fox “news” article. Why was this even posted here? How can we be sure that this is even real considering everyone on this post says you don’t make jack squat on that site
It’s real, Fox News loves posting these horn-dog articles because it hits the bullseye of their conservative-value, low-morality base
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No no, they are the ones throwing money at her in secret. You know that as well as i.
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and so are the cum frittata brothers
Wait, what brothers are these?
the cum frittata brothers.
Fertitta owns the 87 meter yacht Lonian and the associated 66 meter support vessel Hodor.
… a ‘support’ yacht named Hodor. Jayzuz.
So what’s the connection to cum?
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OK but she wouldn’t be as popular and wouldn’t have made that much on OF if it weren’t for her time in the UFC. I mean she’s hot yea, but she’s famous because of her mma career.
“Paige, yes!”
Just pics, or is she doing shows? There’s a “glad he ate her” joke in there somewhere…
It’s amazing what showing your boobs can do for a woman. It’d be infuriating if not for all the gender-based discrimination and life endangering bullshit they also have to deal with. Instead it’s just another example of why we deserve the extinction we’re currently bringing down in ourselves.
“Women showing their tits online is another reason humans deserve extinction” was not on tonight’s bingo card.
“women feeling the legit need to expose themselves for others to make a good living is another reason we deserve extinction” might be a better explaination.
But even if not for that, there’s lots of other reasons.
Yeah that’s how I read it
They don’t need to expose themselves online to make a good living though. I think it’s important to distinguish that - this is an easy and accessible way for most women to make a few extra bucks or a good living, but they don’t need to and there are plenty of options to make a good living that don’t require showing off your naked body out there.
The middle class is being squeezed and many if not all jobs should pay more than what they do - not trying to debate that here. But to pretend women have no other options or somehow feel a need to do OF… Disingenuous at best.
I’ll tell all those women who have tried basically everything else and still ended up there that because it’s not literally their only option they should just be okay with it. That our society has this problem to the tune of thousands or tens of thousands who all claim it’s the only way to make a livable wage is an enormous problem and censoring it with needless and pedantic clarifications like this is a big part of why our society is this way.
The majority of them already have jobs, sometimes multiple jobs. There’s no other options for them.
OF has only existed for 7 years. The lower and middle class has been struggling for much longer than this. Wages have been stagnant for much longer than this. What did these women with ‘no other options’ do before OF? What do the struggling men do?
People almost always have options… They just may not like them. Let’s please all stop pretending these women are forced into or have no other option than OF. They are choosing to because it is a convenient way to make extra income. It’s a convenient side hustle. Why would they spend time creating a product to sell or learning a trade or skill when they can point a camera at themselves? Much faster and easier. And there’s nothing wrong with that - let’s just be honest when we have these conversations.
What did these women with ‘no other options’ do before OF? What do the struggling men do?
They were forced to do other degrading things. Or illegal things. Or both.
They still are; but they used to, too.
Why would they spend time creating a product to sell or learning a trade or skill when they can point a camera at themselves?
They literally are creating a product to sell. Camming is a skill. Don’t shit on sex workers.
let’s just be honest when we have these conversations.
Okay! All jobs are degrading! Your choices under capitalism are just different ways to sell your body and time and mind for a pittance, there is no dignified choice to make where you don’t have to sell yourself to survive. This isn’t new, OF is just a modern innovation of the same thing.
Oh jeeze, that’s rough, a person showing themselves online for money, society must be truly be breaking down for that
why do incels hate hot naked women so much? makes no sense
I genuinely feel rough for those with the incel mindset. It’s a no-hope, bitter mindset, where objectively good things for them are ideologically bad.
Women having sex outside of marraige? Bad to an incel, while they should be celebrating the potential for casual sex. Chicks posing naked online? Bad for an incel, even though that’s their fap material.
MFs literally just need a few nights off their ideology to not have sour grapes.
I think it’s more people confusing what other people do with what they want in a partner. They see someone they would want as a partner, they find out all sorts of dudes have been in her and that turns them off so they get irrationally mad. All in a matter of seconds
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When I left reddit, I really thought I would see less incel shit. Guess I was wrong. How the fuck did this get 25 upvotes?!
I wonder if it’s just modern society that gives taboo to naked bodies. There are plenty of other societies whose people are buck naked and they don’t seem to think anything much about it. If there is no taboo on being naked, I’m sure Onlyfans wouldn’t make any money at all.
Plenty? Some societies have partial nudity as the norm, but this is the far minority, and even then it’s partial.
