Hey everyone, I just finished up a new bot for the instance called Link

This bot aims to give suggestions for other communities in the instance to post to to start populating the more specific topic communities. It currently is triggered just off of keywords it finds in post titles.

This should help people find other communities after they post to [email protected] and encourage cross-posting in the instance since thats recommended (and standard lemmy behaviour is to show crossposts as one post in the post feed)

I added some of the communities in the instance and will go through and add in the rest of them shortly

  • lysdexic
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    I can’t stress enough how annoying and ill thought out this bot is. I’ve seen the bot react to posts to [email protected] pointing to [email protected] , and then react to posts to [email protected] to point to [email protected]. What’s the end goal here? Spam all communities with requests to cross-post stuff to all communities under the sun?

    If the goal is to kill Lemmy as a usable service, you’re doing a good job.

    • AtegonOPMA
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      The article on c/programming was about postgresql and the article on c/postgresql was about performance. Both were articles that could be crossposted to those communities and both are communities that need some more activity so the bot just lets the author and people who enjoy that post know about a community they may not otherwise know about.

      Based on firing without me tweaking it to remove that case its fired twice in the past two days, once today and once yesterday out of all of the posts posted to the instance which is barely anything and is nowhere close to spam. There was 46 posts in the instance total today and 85 in the past two days. Its also one comment that can easily be ignored and will be buried by other comments due to how lemmy’s default comment sort works with putting newer comments at the top

      If you severely dislike the bot you can block it and you will no longer see those comments

      I leave this comment ulrik gave you

      • lysdexic
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        The article on c/programming was about postgresql and the article on c/postgresql was about performance.

        It really doesn’t matter. It’s really not about the article. It’s about the high volume of spam that you are trying to generate on programming.dev communities without creating any value at all. I mean, your bot is not cross-posting content: it’s spamming communities to get someone else to do the work.

        Here’s the latest screwup that your bot is creating (link):

        The [email protected] community currently lists 3 active users per month, and your bot spammed it on each new post sent to it asking those 3 active users to cross-post stuff to multiple communities. This is nuts.

        Again, please stop with all the spamming. Your bot is the single most damaging thing done to programming.dev since its been launched.

        • AtegonOPMA
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          for node.js it seems like it was triggering on the .js which I just went through and removed so it should get barely any triggers now unless you explicitly mention something

          for that community message it sent you posted an article about graphql and about performance

          I made it not crosspost by default so I can tweak things and so people are guided for future posts. (and to prevent false positives while im tweaking things). Im purposely tweaking it to fire less and less and like I said im aiming to get it to fire on 2% of the posts

          again, block the bot if you dont want it

          • lysdexic
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            for node.js it seems like it was triggering (…)

            The problem is not how the bot is triggered. The problem is that the bot is broken by design. Its main output is spamming Lemmy instances with posts that add no value at all.

            I mean, haven’t you even noticed that in some communities your bot is posting more messages than the number of daily visitors?

            What exactly do you plan to achieve with this?

            Please shut down your bot.

            • AtegonOPMA
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              edit-2
              1 year ago

              which communities? And triggering is relevant since by reducing how its triggered it reduces the about the comments it posts or as you like to call them spam

              Ive responded so many times at this point saying why its not spam and why they add value

              Just for you ill add a rule that it cant trigger on any of your posts

              • lysdexic
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                1 year ago

                which communities?

                If you’re paying any attention to what your bot is doing, you’ll be aware of which communities it’s triggering and what/how many messages it’s spamming them with.

                Nevertheless, again: the problem with your bot is that it’s broken by design. If your goal is to cross-post submissions to related communities, instead of spamming discussions with requests your bot would be cross-posting submissions to related communities. If you did any semblance of requirements gathering, you would also notice that a basic feature of these bots is a) be opt-in, b) stop posting based on community feedback.

                • AtegonOPMA
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  1 year ago

                  Ive been paying attention which is why I dont see the communities youre talking about (especially after ive tweaked things). If youre quoting the instance rules with that theres the rule #5 exception which can make bots transition to be opt out instead of opt in. If you want it removed from c++ node and cloud I can do that (I assume you do considering what youve been saying so will remove the three communities from the bots sight)

                  • lysdexic
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    1 year ago

                    Ive been paying attention which is why I dont see the communities youre talking about (especially after ive tweaked things).

                    You’re not paying any attention to what your bot is doing if you aren’t noticing where and what your bot is posting.

                    If you want it removed from c++ node and cloud I can do that (I assume you do considering what youve been saying so will remove the three communities from the bots sight)

                    That does not fix the problem you’re creating.

                    The problem is that your bot is dumping spam onto Lemmy, and apparently you don’t even realize how broken your bot is.

                    If I wanted to ban your bot from the communities I moderate, I would already have done so. That does not fix the problem though.

                    I don’t see how it’s reasonable to expect that your misjudgement in deploying a broken bot should be solved by forcing others to cleanup after you, or do extra maintenance work just to avoid the mess you’re creating.

                    In the very least, your bot should be opt-in, and it should directly cross-post stuff onto the communities that want a bot to generate traffic for them instead of annoying people.

                    Lastly, if you want additional evidence that your bot is broken by design, here’s the absurd suggestion it posted onto [email protected] triggered by a post with a Godot example.

                    Do you really believe you’re doing anyone any favor by suggesting to post a Godot C# sample to communities dedicated to the C programming language and .NET?