Who played the first game (wrongly) as a sort of power fantasy. Neil druckman has said Joel was a bad person and not a hero.

Imo he got what he deserved.

I also think last of us 2 is a great (albeit brutal) game

  • Joel killed innocent people out of a misguided desire to protect his daughter. Ellie tortures and kills many more innocent people against the direct requests of her family for vengeance. No competition really