• Empricorn@feddit.nl
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    11 months ago

    Not this shit again. Our country literally might not survive another Donald Trump presidency, which is what you’re helping happen by supporting a 3rd-party candidate when we have a 2-party system.

    1. Keep Trump and his goons from taking power
    2. Vote local. This is where things like ranked-choice voting and reproductive rights are created and have impact
    3. When it’s not “first past the post”, vote for whoever you want, guilt-free! At this point, there’s no such thing as a spoiler candidate…

    It’s called priorities.

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      I don’t believe there is any way Biden will be re-elected. If for no other reason when he finally dies of old age who would want kamala running the show.

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        This is as bad a take as people saying there’s no way he can lose re-election. Pro or against, betting POTUS (who has the best healthcare in the world) will die in the next 4 years is the longest of bets. Also, no one votes based on who the successor might be. Lastly, he’s healthier than Trump for fuck’s sake…

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          Dude is like 80. Math doesn’t lie and the best doctors in the world can’t stop time. Statistically it’s time to dig a hole. He won’t be re-elected, but if he were there’s no way he’s got another 4 years left kicking dirt.

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            the best doctors in the world can’t stop time

            Ok but life expectancy literally directly correlates with the quality of your healthcare

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              Understood. He’s already 8 years past the average life expectancy of a American man. The writing is on the wall.

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      vote for whoever you want, guilt-free

      i do this now. the only decision i have left to make is whether it’s going to be jill stein or cornel west.

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            It was a joke. But functionally, you’re throwing your vote away. If you care so much about 3rd-party candidates, instead help us pass ranked-choice voting!

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              If you care so much about 3rd-party candidates

              honestly, i don’t. i vote because it takes like no effort, but i vote for people i actually want to win. i’m not terribly invested in whether they do, though: every politician i’ve ever voted for who won turned out to be a terrible disappointment.

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                every politician i’ve ever voted for who won turned out to be a terrible disappointment.

                Weird. Based on your comments, you’re clearly a rational, empathetic individual open to intelligent discussion, so the issue can’t be you

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              help us pass ranked-choice voting!

              no, thank you. i don’t want that system any more than the current one.

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              i don’t see the point of this question. it’s clearly rhetorical. if you have something to say, say it.

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                  theres no expertise needed. we can ask him why he chose to run as a democrat.

                  “There’s no secret that I think that the Democratic Party has not been vigorous enough in standing up for working families. I’ve said that repeatedly and I say it again,” Sanders told Seven Days. “On the other hand, I will also tell you [there are] some great people in the Democratic Party that I work closely with. But right now, it seems to me the most effective and practical way to go forward is to participate in the Democratic primary process.”

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              you don’t need to know anything about so-called “third party” politics to know that if you count a vote for one person as another, that’s illegal and it is not the policy to count green votes as republican votes.

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                This is a weird comment. It’s not “so called,” It’s actually called third party politics. And Bernie is the longest serving third party politician I think ever, at least in modern history.