• starman2112@sh.itjust.works
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        11 months ago

        So given the choice between someone actively demanding genocide and someone who’s passively supporting a genocide, you’d sooner see more people murdered than vote for the lesser evil?

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            11 months ago

            So you would sooner choose to let more people suffer than involve yourself in seeing fewer people suffer. What an awful person you are.

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              11 months ago

              in the trolley thought experiment, I don’t pull the lever because I’m not a murderer

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                11 months ago

                Yeah you are. If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice. You don’t get to not involve yourself, not pulling the lever is as much an active choice to kill 5 people as pulling the lever is a choice to kill one.

                You value your own sense of self righteousness over the lives of other people, and that’s awful and selfish.

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                  11 months ago

                  not pulling the lever is as much an active choice to kill 5 people as pulling the lever is a choice to kill one.

                  that’s not what deontologists believe

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                    11 months ago

                    I don’t care what deontologists believe. They value their own sense of self-righteousness and moral superiority over the lives of other people, and that’s evil. If you would rather see a woman raped than commit an act of violence against her rapist because committing violence is always wrong, you are evil. If you accept that there are situations where committing acts of violence aren’t necessarily wrong, you aren’t a deontologist and don’t get to use it as an excuse not to pull the lever.

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                  11 months ago

                  You value your own sense of self righteousness over the lives of other people, and that’s awful and selfish.

                  and I’d say you value your own sense of power over the lives of the person you killed.

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                    11 months ago

                    That’s totally incorrect. I value the lives of the people that aren’t going to die. Unlike you, I don’t make decisions based on how I personally feel about them, but rather what the outcome will be.