• FourteenEyes [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      She has muscles and is scary scared

      Therefore she is not traditionally beautiful despite the fucking golden cracks on her implying she is a work of art who has been made more beautiful by her ordeal

        • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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          437 months ago

          She explicitly refers to herself as beautiful and says that her foes will be broken upon her beauty, she shines with divine light and has angel wings and everyone thinks she’s super hot and her cute gf is embarrassed when she loudly declares that they’re going to have sexual relations because they are lovers

          It’s such a brave take saying that this goddess who everyone in the game drools over can be seen as beautiful now and meanwhile hot orc lady from Moonrise Towers just gets to be a combat speed bump

    • Stoatmilk [he/him]
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      247 months ago

      The article makes the argument that she is not the male beauty standard for women, but the female one. I’m not sure that is true, she is like 3 % too wide-shouldered for the most conservative standard, and I wouldn’t exactly call it broadening in a non-pun-based sense of the word.

      • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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        247 months ago

        The article makes the argument that she is not the male beauty standard for women, but the female one.

        That’s kinda wild tbh. Which female beauty standard is that supposed to refer to? What straight women buying into hegemonial femininity want to be like? What queer women find hot? These two standards tend to be not the same type of woman, and the latter in particular usually isn’t one narrowly defined type of woman in the first place, because the entire point of a sapphic desire that defines itself in opposition to the hegemonnial way of sexualizing women is to view each other as subjects, not as objects, which only works when you understand our beauty as an expression of ourself, not as a fulfillment of an abstract and policed ideal beauty standard that by definition must always exclude most women because most women are not of the same race, body shape etc.

        Which, btw, is a position that i’ve not only seen in all kinds of lesbian communities, but found a ton of straight dudes to very enthusiastically agree on, because viewing women as human and being able to find more than 1% of the female population hot are both kind of a prerequisite if you realistically want a fulfilling relationship with a woman, which surprisingly tends to be something most straight men actually want.

        Or, tl;dr: Reactionary anti-feminists who enforce hegemonial gender roles fight to make everyone unhappy, including other cishet dudes.

    • ashinadash [she/her, comrade/them]
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      127 months ago

      I find it’s 50/50 on the height thing, like there is the womanlet meme, but also if someone as a heterosexual man is with a woman taller than him, he’ll probably get bullied or whatever?

      • Othello [comrade/them, love/loves]
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        ive towered over half the men ive been with, no one has ever said anything. unless you have dogshit friends no one you know is gonna say anything also if a man keepsd friends like that you shouldn’t date him. also tall women are still the beauty standard regardless if individual short mens preferences.

        • ashinadash [she/her, comrade/them]
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          97 months ago

          I think it’s more of like a chud meme tbf, also being in transfemme internet circles has given me permanently deranged views of height, please help! As a result I find it to be incredibly fascinating that tall is the beauty standard, when all I do is listen to “wah I’m too tall masculine trait” type shit!

          • Othello [comrade/them, love/loves]
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            here take it from someone who has spent much time as a cis women who has always been very tall. men love it , fucking obsessed with it, short men, tall men, fucking obsessed and not just the fetishist lol. men ask me to wear heels on front of their friends i dont lol. if a short man shows me off thats a win for him because he managed to get a tall hot person. tall men love it because they like kissing someone they dont have to lean down for. the women and enbys? haha, they love it even more. also look at how tall celebrities and models are you gotta be 5.7 minimum to be a model. tall is definitely the standard i get told i should be a model all the time because im tall. also i was the shortest of my old girl friend group we looked like a herd of giraffes none of them have ever had a problem attracting the people they want. tbf the tallest one only dated me when i knew her.

  • joaomarrom [he/him, comrade/them]
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    Is it because of the scars? It’s already been pointed out here that she’s pretty conventional as far as beauty standards go, a tall blonde white woman with straight hair.

    What about Lae’zel? She’s the “odd-looking” waifu that everybody was talking about, she would be much more convincing as an example. Even so, her face and skin tone are the only unusual things about her, she’s still an athletic woman in good shape, as defined by common beauty standards… I don’t know, I can see where they’re coming from with this, but the argument simply doesn’t hold up when you use BG3 characters, who are almost all conventionally beautiful, as examples.

    • TheCaconym [any]
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      367 months ago

      Is it because of the scars? It’s already been pointed out here that she’s pretty conventional as far as beauty standards go, a tall blonde white woman with straight hair.

      It’s because in-game she’s boisterous and strong and doesn’t act like a passive piece of furniture, which is what these freaks want

      Also probably the fact she’s gay

        • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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          I mean I have a scar running the full length of my back (from neck to bum), and even though everyone I talk to says it’s fine and barely noticeable, the stares I get at the beach or pool say otherwise

          • Kuori [she/her]
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            47 months ago

            ugh that’s so shitty, i’m sorry. people are so used to gawking at anything that violates their narrow standards of beauty.

            i know it doesn’t help at all but i said that because i personally think scars are hot. maybe i just have 18th century german duelist brain or something but they’re basically rarer, unintentional tattoos imo.

            i hope I didn’t make you feel bad or uncomfortable or anything. meow-hug

    • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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      87 months ago

      She’s not just tall, she’s a hulking giant. She’s like 12 feet tall and muscular. Definitely not the “conventional beauty” but definitely has an audience still

      • joaomarrom [he/him, comrade/them]
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        37 months ago

        I hadn’t seen her in the game, only checked google images for pictures and didn’t notice her size

        then I watched a video of a cutscene with her and… my oh my

        • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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          37 months ago

          my cutscene in game was a buggy mess since I played opening week so I didn’t even really see her, just a buggy tentacle blocking my vision

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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    uncreative

    You heard it folks, nothing more creative than the same shit car commercials have been doing to trick horny dudes into buying shit they don’t need for decades.

    God forbid artists are allowed to paint outside the corporate numbers for once. I’m sorry, cis dudes, but your taste is fucking boring.

    As someone else pointed out, even Dame Aylin is a sterotypically conventually attractive woman that ticks all the modern beauty standards. Good god, stop being so safe with your woman characters.

  • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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    387 months ago

    What’s with the weird dehumanising cop lingo these guys insist on using? He could’ve said “the average joe”, “regular dudes”, “normal guys” etc

  • EnsignRedshirt [he/him]
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    367 months ago

    Beauty standards aside, this is the dumbest part:

    Not if you want normal males to buy your stuff

    BG3 has been a colossal success. It came out three months ago and it’s still topping sales charts, which means that either no one else cares about the things this sad loser cares about, or the sad loser demographic isn’t worth catering to.

  • RedQuestionAsker2 [any]
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    347 months ago

    Are there any websites where I, a normal male, can talk to other normal males exclusively?

    I’d really like to bounce my faux intellectual and prescriptive ideas about art without being oppressed by non-normal gender identities.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      317 months ago

      Look up the “historical accuracy” mods for BG3 that remove “historically inaccurate” blackness from one of the playable characters. In a fucking fantasy setting with dimension hopping squid people.

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        Historically accurate

        Wtf is this sentiment that keeps getting regurgitated about fantasy settings. It’s not historical to begin with. Why would it need to be historically accurate. Let alone the fact that these people don’t want accuracy they want us-foreign-policy.

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          The Witcherino had le epic grown-ass adult cussing, le sexy sex, and most importantly lots of historically accurate white people in a fictional setting so-true

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    257 months ago

    Only the uncreative and those with an axe to grind advocate for escapes to reflect reality

    wonder-who-thats-for

  • Kuori [she/her]
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    237 months ago

    nothing should be made to appeal to men like this ever again. let them live in a completely barren room for their entire miserable lives

  • @Hexarei
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    That headline confuses me. Dame Aylin is not only conventionally attractive but is also a strong boisterous meathead who kicks total ass. What’s not to love?