• NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social
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    11 months ago

    I don’t think any of the people involved in the Nakba are alive anymore, beyond perhaps a few dinosaurs in nursing homes.

    Yet the effects continue to this day, in the form of an overpopulated Gaza and 6 million Palestinian exiles.

    I don’t think any of the people involved in the Nakba are alive anymore, beyond perhaps a few dinosaurs in nursing homes.

    A random Israeli civilian living near Gaza is no more responsible for the Nakba than a random American today is for the ethnic cleaning of the Americas,

    No, because the Nakba continued. People continued to be expelled from their lands after 1949. It’s like someone moving to live on ancestral Native land that was taken three decades ago. I’m not saying all of them are criminals, but anyone who wasn’t born there is the same as West Bank settlers.

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      11 months ago

      Well, 70% of Israelis were born there, and most immigrant Jews go to firmly Jewish lands, so the odds of any random Israeli being a foreigner who came to settle traditionally Arab lands is quite small, though they do exist of course, and are rather shitty.

      Regardless, the attacks on October 7th were concentrated on the land immediately surrounding Gaza, which has been firmly Jewish since the 40s. No Palestinian peace plan has ever claimed them. So even if you accept that direct violence is acceptable against people explicitly displacing Arabs, that describes essentially no victims of the attacks.

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        11 months ago

        Well, 70% of Israelis were born there,

        Are these stats for people in the attack’s range or Israelis in general? I’m talking about the former.

        and most immigrant Jews go to firmly Jewish lands, so the odds of any random Israeli being a foreigner who came to settle traditionally Arab lands is quite small, though they do exist of course, and are rather shitty.

        Almost all of Israel is traditionally Arab land.

        Also in the first place we’re talking about foreign citizens (except for ones who were born there and inherited citizenship from their parents), who while not necessarily deserved to die are 100% not innocent.