• LanternEverywhere@kbin.social
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    Why would you try to sneak a gun into any medical test area? Even if you didn’t know an mri will fuck with a gun, what is the motivation to try to sneak a gun into a medical test room?

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        Holy shit I had a conversation the other day with a dude who said, “democrats just want to touch children and change their genitalia”

        He went off about how democrats want to change pedophile name and be more accepting. I told him people don’t say that. Only pedophiles do. He went off about how democrats are pedophiles.

        He went off about how schools, doctors, and liberal agenda is allowing the mutilation of children’s genitalia.

        Taking something he says is fact and blowing into the massive majority of all Democrat fundamentals.

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          ask him what he thinks of circumcion without consent at young age and I bet he will defend that without hesitation

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          In that situation, the best thing to do is agree with them and then start telling them about how voting is a way for the goverment to track you and/or … plant … fucking alien brocolli seeds in your brain or something, so never ever vote

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          Tell him there are more convicted Christian & Republican paedophiles than Democrats.

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          BTW, the justification for using different names for pedophiles - like minor attracted person - isn’t to normalize child abuse.

          Rather its to get people to seek and accepted help.

          The real goal for us should be protecting kids. Not punishing people with dirty thoughts.

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            I think that’s a good cause, but isn’t the definition of a pedophile meaning one who likes young aged people? Minor attracted person is the same thing with extra steps. Same stigma, same thoughts, same people.

            Get the help but unfortunately it may be one of the things that shouldn’t be vocalized in a normal setting as most people are too narrow minded to help.

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              Removing stigma helps us talk about the issue. That’s why MAP phrasing is promoted by those more concerned with child protection than virtue signalling.

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          These kinds of conversations are why I quit my last job. I couldn’t take it anymore.

          I’d get whole tirades like that and just be like…

          “Ok…uh…sure…so…welcome to the library, did you want to print something or…?”

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          Some times it’s difficult to tell if a person like that is serious or just seriously trolling you. However, I have met people who say some of the wildest things about wikipedia, vaccines, police, governments etc. and they seemed very serious to me.

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            it’s literally doublethink (literally 1984!!!) as it’s both. They seriously adopt a facetious position to troll and believe it wholeheartedly should be policy and law.

            Yes, it doesn’t make any sense. That’s deliberate too.

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      Cowardice. People that think they need a gun on them at all times are paranoid cowards… Which also makes them the last people who should be able to own a gun.

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        People shouldn’t have guns. Simple as that.

        Who the hell decided allowing every civilian a fully functional firearm is a good idea

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          People who were aware of Protestants being murdered by the King of England. People who were aware of the Salem Witch Trials. People who have seen over and over again the natural tendency of power to collect in fewer and fewer hands until there’s a revolution and a bunch of bloodshed.

          People who understood that power is best kept distributed. People who understood that small groups of citizens needed to have some real kind of threat against tyrannical government actors.

          That doesn’t mean you need to allow every psychopath have a gun, especially the ones who talk about murdering their peers or are known to torture and kill animals.

          I believe well regulated militias are still relevant to this day.

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        This is such a weird take, but I hear it a lot. Many of the people I work with carry and very few of them are like that.

        I think there are cultural differences, though. City people are more likely to be that way, but for the more rural or country guys it’s the same as me carrying a knife all the time. It’s just something that’s done.

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          Not so weird… A Knife I can understand. There are a number of uses for a knife beyond being an offensive or defensive weapon. I’m not a knife person, personally, but even I have a few to cut food, or open sealed boxes. I’ve seen knives used to cut bindings and they can even be used to craft art (whittling being an art form where the knife is the primary tool of choice)!

          A gun? Outside of a legit, active warzone? A gun either says you’re hunting, or your scared. That’s it! I have all the respect for a hunter going into the forests to hunt game animals. I do love myself a burger and a steak… but in a public setting? What’re you hunting? What utility is a gun in a public Walmart?

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            I understand it seems that way to you, but it doesn’t to them. It’s just kind of normal.

            A coworker had a deer run in front of his truck Monday morning and it didn’t die from the impact, so he shot it.

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      Routinely carrying a concealed handgun can create considerable difficulties when a person unexpectedly ends up somewhere they can’t do so. Leaving it in a car is a significant risk for theft (and stolen guns get used for bad things). Leaving it with medical staff isn’t great. Leaving it unattended outside an exam room presents obvious dangers to anyone who might happen upon it.

      It’s hard to find yourself in an MRI room without adequate warning that anything magnetic will become a projectile though. I think most places give the patient both written and verbal warnings, and the article here says this patient was warned about metal and specifically about guns.

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        They literally give you a locker when you go in for an MRI because you have to spend so long naked. This was never a problem for her. She’s just stupid.

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          Facilities vary. I didnt have secure storage when I got an MRI, but I didnt bring a gun or anything else unreasonable to leave unattended.

          The question wasn’t whether she’s stupid (clearly she is), but why someone would bring a gun into a medical exam.

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            Interesting, I don’t remember a locker either, but it was just my phone and keys, because I’m not an idiot

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          Own the libs

          Personally I’m always very offended when someone wounds themselves in a profoundly stupid and preventable manner. I truly hope they don’t do it again, that would be terrible. 😉

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      Is this different in the states? In Germany every time I had to enter one of those I had to put away every single metallic item on me, including piercings and shit. They warn you very thoroughly that you cannot bring metal objects with you because of the high magnetic forces of the machine.

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          That’s just not true. They absolutely do tell you not to take anything metal with you. So this woman clearly ignored those warnings.

          You can’t tell me that in the land of lawsuits doctors wouldn’t tell you not to take metal objects into an MRI

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            “Ah don’t have no metal! Ah jurst got mah phone, mah coins, mah keys and mah gurn!”

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          This statement is categorically false. I have had quite a few MRIs over several decades (knee bullshit), and every single time I have gone in, the staff is crystal clear about the fact that you do not bring in anything metallic, full stop, no exceptions, because it can potentially kill you if it gets pulled forcefully in the wrong direction.

          Anyone working at an MRI facility who ignores the rules around magnetic objects is going to definitely destroy equipment and perhaps maim or kill people, and is thus a lawsuit waiting to happen.

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          Ive only done it once, but I also thought they could have stressed this way more, and probably ought to be graphic about the results, to catch these dumb fucks. However, they also waved a metal detector over me. Shouldn’t that catch things like guns? Is this common practice, or do I just look like an idiot?

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      You can’t. My guess is, it was a party or off the clock silliness.

      You can’t even wear your own clothes in those machines. Hospital gowns couldn’t handle the weight of even the smallest handgun.

      The details are purposely scant because it had to be reported but they didn’t want to share what really happened.

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        Had an MRI a couple of weeks ago. Wore my own clothes. Tech did say I should lower my trousers to my knees when I pointed out that there was a fly zip, but didn’t seem too bothered.

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        I had a head MRI a few weeks ago. They didn’t make me take off my clothes, they just triple checked I had nothing metal on me or inside me by asking me several times.

        There don’t need to be additional details. She snuck a gun into the MRI room and found out why you shouldn’t do that.