An overview of studies which investigate correlations between morality and religious vs. secular / atheist ideologies presented by Phil Zuckerman who is a professor of sociology and secular studies at the Claremont colleges in California, USA. Summary: Atheists / secular people not only have morals but are even more moral than religious people. Note: Of course moral is a matter of perspective. In this context we agree that compassion and empathy are our foundations of moral.

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An overview of studies which investigate correlations between morality and religious vs. secular / atheist ideologies presented by Phil Zuckerman who is a professor of sociology and secular studies at the Claremont colleges in California, USA.

Summary: Atheists / secular people not only have morals but are even more moral than religious people.

Note: Of course moral is a matter of perspective. In this context we agree that compassion and empathy are our foundations of moral.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldEnglish
      533·
      1 year ago

      With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion.

      ― Steven Weinberg

      • jasoryEnglish
        48·
        1 year ago

        “Quotemining is a rigorous proof” -W.V.O. Quine probably

          • jasoryEnglish
            110·
            1 year ago

            If this is all just a game about writing a string of characters, then why are you complaining about my comment?

            If it’s not then why are you endorsing a false statement?

            • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldEnglish
              31·
              1 year ago

              Do you really not understand that people can say things which other people can agree with without being able to prove them? What do you want, a morality survey?

              • jasoryEnglish
                16·
                1 year ago

                I understand it. It’s not a logical action. You’re not some misunderstood super genius, you’re a standard internet poster who blindly accepts and endorses false statements simply because it agrees with your preconceived notions.

                I like how this entire time you’re arguing for why you posted it (which nobody actually cares about), and not actually defending the statement made.

                  • jasoryEnglish
                    17·
                    1 year ago

                    You literally forgot that you posted a quote claiming that religion is necessary for immoral actions?

                    Are you actually so stupid that external parties understand your motivations better than you?

    • rosymind@leminal.spaceEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      I have a friend who recently got caught cheating in school. At about 40, I’m headed back as well. The other day I mentioned that I needed to take a math placement test (I haven’t taken any math classes in about 2 decades). She said that I should have my husband take them for me.

      1. No, I want to learn, and not struggle which I would if I was placed in a higher level math than I am currently capable of understanding
      2. It’s obviously the wrong thing to do

      Guess what she originally majored in…

      Christian Theology

    • Sylvartas@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      Hey I do know a few truly compassionate and empathic religious people. In my own experience they are definitely more of an exception than the norm though.

      • 𝙲𝚑𝚊𝚒𝚛𝚖𝚊𝚗 𝙼𝚎𝚘𝚠English
        5·
        1 year ago

        Hitler was not really irreligious. Some historians claim he remained a Christian, despite disliking the church. Others claim he was not a Christian in the traditional sense of the word, but did keep some level of reverence for Jesus.

        The most commonly held belief it seems is that Hitler was a deist, believing in some god that would protect the German people, though not necessarily the Judeo-Christian god. He did however remain a member of the Catholic church until his suicide.

        Regardless of his own beliefs, he did use religion as a tool to further his genocidal plans.