Default instance blocks should largely replace defederation

Since what content users might want to see is quite unlikely to match which servers the admins tolerate, choosing instance on the Fediverse can be quite complicated, which is inconvenient and off-putting for new users.

For this reason, and simply that the Fediverse is stronger united, I believe defederation should ideally be reserved for illegal content and extreme cases. If Fediverse platforms would allow instances to simply block the rest for users by default, the user experience would be the same, unless they decide otherwise.

@fediverse #fediverse #defederation

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      11 months ago

      With blocking instances I mean also blocking all the users on that instance, which is the case on all platforms that allow it.

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          11 months ago

          Yes, but at least the user has the choice to reverse it for themselves, which I explained in the post.

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              11 months ago

              No, I wrote that they could be blocked by default but that the users would have the choice to manually opt in.

              Edit: Also, the problem is that the instances people want to be on don’t always federate with the instances they want to see content from. Adding an extra server which people have no reason to want to join doesn’t solve anything.

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                  11 months ago

                  Nah, content doesn’t get federated unless someone follows it. And I said it already I’m not for unconditional federation, if instances do illegal things (which gets well documented, no need to observe it directly), of course you should defederate.

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                    11 months ago

                    Ah, so you want a ‘hard’ defederation, that works just like it does now, and a ‘soft’ defederation, that users could opt to disable? Interesting.

                    However, as others said already, that would mean that servers now also have to federate with other servers that most users and the mods probably dont see, creating difficult moderation challenges…

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      11 months ago

      Define “trollin” that ain’t justa different opinion vs yours because nowadays, y’all just as soft as rotten fruit and bruise just as easily so anything can be slapt with rhe TROLLS label O_O

      like what I just said for example p sure you or someone else is going to say I was trolllyn with my response but I am not :P