Twitch allowing more nudity after disproportionately banning female streamers | Twitch confirmed its policy banning nudity was sexist.::Twitch confirmed its policy banning nudity was sexist.

  • prunerye@slrpnk.net
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    1 year ago

    There are literal sex differences between men and women. If we include those in the definition of sexism, we cheapen the word.

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      1 year ago

      You should apply for the fantastic four with that much stretch. They’re fucking nipples and we literally stick them in the mouths of our infants. You know damn well that we’re not talking about the differences between men and women but the way society and twitch threats people differently.

      Even men who present as women on twitch have seen this. Finnster has had bans for shit nobody would care about if he weren’t so feminine looking.

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        Yes, we’re talking about the way society and twitch treats people differently… on the basis of physical sexual characteristics expressly regarding the topic of physical sexual characteristics. I’ve never used Twitch, but unless there’s something I’m supposed to be reading inbetween the lines, I don’t see the problem with banning female nipples. If society is going to have any standards on the rejection of nudity, I don’t see why the line has to be drawn somewhere before nipples and no further.

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            1 year ago

            I agree with all of that. I don’t see our two comments as in conflict, except that when I said “societ[al]… standards on the rejection of nudity”, I didn’t draw the line at sex organs. But I don’t think Twitch is going to ban short people any time soon, if you’re worried about a slippery slope.

            My original reply was in regards to the word “sexist”. If your definition of “sexist” is so morally neutral that it includes literally any kind of discrimination between sexes, then that’s fine; this is “sexist”, and so are all of us. But since most people use “sexist” to refer to a moral transgression, it seems silly to me to pretend that male and female nipples are the same, and I don’t see any moral hazard in saying so.

            Whether or not society should care so much about titties isn’t a question I was trying to address, only that it’s not sexist to do so.

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                1 year ago

                Women’s breast produce milk, which comes from procreation. That’s more sexual than a man’s non-functional nipples, even if slightly. Other animals don’t have enlarged breast like humans do. That points to them having an estrus function in addition to their biological function. Breast very well may be a hard-wired arousal point.

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            1 year ago

            Female nipples produce milk, for one. Note, that doesn’t mean I think they should be banned.

            • sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz
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              Males can also lactate if they have elevated levels of prolactin (which can be genetic). It’s fascinating stuff, some cis guys can allegedly get “sympathy lactation” after their partners give birth. There are also quite a few other species of mammals that have males lactating over females.

              https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/strange-but-true-males-can-lactate/

              However, guys, if you do start spontaneously secreting fluid out of your nipples, I would suggest getting yourself to a doctor.