Microsoft keeps shooting itself in the foot with Edge::Microsoft Edge is full of fantastic features, but the tech company makes it hard to appreciate them.

  • TurboLag@lemmings.worldEnglish
    73·
    11 个月前

    Now, Google is bringing in Manifest V3, a new version of Chromium.

    If this is the level of their understanding, it’s hard to trust anything this outlet publishes.

  • joeyv120@ttrpg.networkEnglish
    659·
    11 个月前

    I’ve been a MS products fan since Windows Phone, Cortana, and OneNote stole my heart. I loved the great features that Windows 10 and Edge provided out-of-the box. Bing provided better results than Google for some time.

    But Phone was never accepted by the market, and with it, Cortana faded away. OneNote hasn’t kept up with the market, and they somehow broke the cursor on mobile. Sticky Notes lost compatibility with Dark Mode. They started pushing ads to Windows start menu, and embedded ads in Edge Collections.

    Microsoft makes great software, then fuck it all up. Oh well, back to Linux.

    • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com
      7311·
      11 个月前

      ha. ive spent my entire career installing and managing microsoft products. top to bottom. soup to nuts. client to server… for 40 years. my bread and butter relies on microsoft.

      its all garbage, and their quality control is actually getting worse.

      this entire post is fanboi fiction.

    • YurkshireLad@lemmy.caEnglish
      221·
      11 个月前

      I’ve been using Microsoft products since the early days of DOS, and the only product that truly impressed me was NT; it was a breath of fresh air as a developer, with its new kernel and much improved stability. Finally, we could develop for windows and not have the OS crash!

      Everything else has driven me nuts, and their quality had definitely gone drastically down hill. Their software now is a bloated mess of ugly, especially windows. How did we get to an OS that installs so many gigs of files? Holy crap!

      I try to always use Firefox and never use Edge.

      • orclev@lemmy.worldEnglish
        81·
        11 个月前

        Windows XP 64 bit edition was Microsofts peak, everything has been downhill from there. Microsoft Research (a child company of Microsoft proper) does some really cool stuff. Everything interesting/good to come out of MS in the last couple decades started there, and then the main Microsoft company got ahold of it and inevitably cocked it up.

        For a brief period of time I was hopeful that MS had turned over a new leaf when they started to opensource their dev software like VS Code and typescript, but that’s always been a bait and switch. They’re handing carrots out to developers while simultaneously beating their normal customers with sticks.

        • umbrella@lemmy.mlEnglish
          42·
          11 个月前

          i never believed their heart open source phase, and i still think they are trying to figure out how to eee stuff like linux

      • Buffalox@lemmy.worldEnglish
        51·
        11 个月前

        the only product that truly impressed me was NT

        I hated Windows NT from day 1, any driver or update could potentially brick your system, and there was no command line to boot into to fix it. It wasn’t until service pack 3 that it became reasonably stable. I simply don’t understand how Microsoft could ever be considered a maker of professionel software. The most impressive thing about Windows NT was the stupidity of it, and the completely outrageous claims Microsoft made about “security” features.

        • YurkshireLad@lemmy.caEnglish
          5·
          11 个月前

          Yeah maybe I was thinking of NT 3.5.1. Whatever version it was, it was our first experience of a Windows version that was stable. It was a long time ago, my memory isn’t great. I think we were forced to develop on Windows 95 until we could get the NT licenses and hardware.

          • Buffalox@lemmy.worldEnglish
            3·
            11 个月前

            That would make more sense IMO. If you used Windows 95, It probably wasn’t the original Windows NT, because that came out in 93 and was called NT 3.1.
            Windows NT 3.5.1 came out in 95, I admit I looked it up to support my memory. I still didn’t like 3.5.1 although it was better, Although it came out later the same year, I liked Windows 95, it finally got long filenames, which annoyed me tremendously that DOS/Windows didn’t have before Windows 95. Obviously Windows NT 3.5.1 still lacked the ability to boot to console, and have a full set of tools to fix things when they went wrong. Also most games didn’t work on NT. 😋

            • partial_accumen@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              11 个月前

              Windows NT 3.5 (and later 3.5.1) was far more stable than the desktop versions of Windows (Windows 3.11 and early Win95). If you need help remembering NT versions visually, NT 3.X still used progman.exe so it looked like Windows 3.1. Windows NT 4 was the first one to use explorer.exe (with the Start button) like Win95.

              Win95 gold release was a hot mess of crashes and shaky drivers. The “stable” version of Win95 didn’t arrive until OSR2 (aka Windows 95B).

              • Buffalox@lemmy.worldEnglish
                1·
                11 个月前

                Yes admittedly Windows 3.5.1 was more stable than DOS/Windows. But I still hated the design of it, and the lack of ability to boot into console in particular.

                • partial_accumen@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  1·
                  11 个月前

                  I’m thinking back to those times fixing broken NT 3.5 machines. I can’t think of many times a console was needed that didn’t have alternate methods to accomplish the same thing. There’s really only two times I can think I’d need what we use a console for today.

                  • display drivers wrong/bad - VGA mode existed for this where you could get a very ugly 640x480 16 color display that worked on all VGA cards irrespective of driver. You could get into the OS (even authenticate!) and make any changes to the OS needed.

                  • mass storage controller change/ driver fix - Running through the setup again from floppies (F8 to use new driver) and you’d be back into the OS.

                  What else did you need a console for?

      • BearOfaTime@lemm.eeEnglish
        3·
        11 个月前

        Are you me? Get out of my brain!

        NT changed everything.

        Windows 10 is labelled NT10 internally

      • joeyv120@ttrpg.networkEnglish
        71·
        11 个月前

        On mobile, when everyone was releasing their new voice assistant technologies, Cortana outperformed them all. On desktop I agree that Cortana was a waste of space.

    • EvolvedTurtle@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      11 个月前

      Dude if windows phone actually like Stuck around I was so gonna get one Cause I was so interested in the concept Thinking about trying Linux phones tbh

  • witty_username@feddit.nlEnglish
    251·
    11 个月前

    Bit alarmist no? Microsoft doesn’t necessarily need to build on top of the latest chromium. They certainly have the resources to just fork chromium and keep that updated.
    Not that I personally care, I just use Firefox

  • Tick Dracy@lemm.eeEnglish
    6·
    11 个月前

    For some time, Edge was my favourite browser, given that it has awesome features like sleeping tabs, vertical tabs and web select (this last one allowed you to select an html table and paste in excel). With the silent removal of web select, and adding more and more useless features, they just pushed me into Firefox.

  • people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
    1·
    11 个月前

    It’s a genuine shame because Edge could very easily become the best browser on Windows if only MS played their cards right. Resource optimization of this browser is terrific and it leaves both Chrome and Firefox behind in terms of speed and snappiness. All MS needs to do is make it FOSS, strip down the unnecessary bloat and ensure firsthand content blocking support, and it will be straight-up unbeatable.